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  • #16
    I was a student of their student. Joe is almost untouchable in BJJ. Roy is great also. Me I spent 3 years on the mat but I didn't test. I have a bad habit of doing things my way.

    In BJJ sport leaves a lot of openings that in reality you would get clobbered. I'm a natural in any a range. I leaned my position reeally good and the submissions, well that can take forever! I have enough that work for me.

    Fake Martial Artist? WE TALK TO THEM IN HERE EVERYDAY!!!!!
    THIS BOARD IS FULL OF PISS ANT MOTHER F#$KERS QUOTING JOE BAD AND THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!

    I can't give you any tips there. A belt means what you want it to mean. It doesn't mean you are better or the best. So in loOking for a jkd school, the same thing applies. It dosen't matter if someone is certified. Can they fight? Theres only 1 way to find that one out!

    Use your instincts!
    FROM WHAT I'VE READ FROM YOU, YOU ARE MORE MATURE THAN 50% OF THESE GUYS!!!

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    • #17
      Sometimes my karate class gets sport orientated and I try to hint it to the senior instructors that doing this or that can't possibly work in a real fight. They then tell my sensei, and I can usually help prevent my school from teaching sport, except for when it comes to tournaments.

      Have you ever been in any martial arts tournements? Well, you should avoid karate tournaments, they are nothing but sport. I have one on March 1st that I have to go to to represent my karate school. If a certain amount does not represent my school then my teacher said he will have to move the school to Houston, Texas. Well anyway, I deal with these tournaments by not entering into the kata competion( ohh look at me do my pretty dance everybody, no thanks!) and then I go full contact while competing in Kumite(sparring) and get disqualified, then I get to leave early. But at least I don't lose because I can't fight.

      Anyway, I just hope I can find a good JKD instructor in my area, but if I don't find one, I won't let it stop me from training as well as I can, and CONSTANTLY improving.

      Yes, there is only one way to find out if someone can fight, (by actually fighting them). I would gladly challenge a JKD instructor to a match to see if he is real. Why? Not because I'm cocky, but because they seem really down to earth and won't get all puffy and samuraish and hurt you badly just to show their students they have all the control, if they are real, they'll just knock the wind out of you and clearly show that they are the dominate one in the fight.

      Thanks for noting my mature atittude, I try. And, you are right, a lot of the people on this forum are fake and imature, and for all we real martial artists know, they could be some insecure pimple faced nerd, who gets picked on all the time at school, typing away in his mom's basement and trying to find a power-trip. I pity them.
      Last edited by Siegfried; 02-07-2003, 06:56 PM.

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      • #18
        Your in Karate class to learn Karate! Hinting to your instructor ANYTHING like your doing is a direct insult to your instructor and your implying that you can teach yourself. If you can then you don't need to be there.

        Don't be fooled by the nonsense talk about kata. People who talk bad about kata just themselves NEVER REACHED THE POTENTIAL that it takes for them to understand what they are doing!!!!!!

        Its not a bunch of moves put together with awkward stances that don't work. It is true that todays schools need more realistic fight training but the kata is a way of practicing your mind as well as your body. Take it from someone whos seen a lot!!

        If you or anybody else think that you don't have to train your mind, then you are destined to be a loser!! Your letting your mind get in your way by beleiving these things that other people are saying.

        People are going to come right back and say sh!t about training your mind! But their limiting their own potential. BELEIVE ME WHEN I SAY THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE OUT WHO ACHEIVED GREATNESS IN JKD WITHOUT EXPERIENCING THE TRADITIONAL ARTS!! IF ALL YOU KNOW IS TECHNIQUE THAT WE ALL CALL "FUNCTIONAL", THEN THE HOLE IN YOUR TRAINING IS YOUR MIND!!

        When you come across a fighter that gets past everything you've got, your mind will save you. If it isn't trained to its potential, you'll lose! Your technique is already beat, you've got nothing left! A mind is a powerful thing. Meditation helps in all facets of life!! If you brush this off then your martial art will be "superficial" and when you realize that you could of done more with your art because your mind could of taken you there, IT WILL BE TOO LATE!!!!!!!

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        • #19
          I only try to avoid praciticing sport in my karate class.

          What I meant was that I don't like performing kata for an audience. Its not that I'm insecure I'm just not one to perform for people. But, I agree, kata are very valuable for conditioning the mind and body.

          What you wrote about when you come across an opponent who is equal in technical skill can only be beat if you have a stronger mind is very true. This happens all the time to me while sparring and at times I lose. I have heard this fact many times from notable masters(Miyamoto Musashi; A Book of Five Rings). (Its a valuable strategy book, if you ever are looking for a book on martial strategy, you should read it, but I recomend the martial arts version). A lot of it though I'm sure you already know through experience.

          I agree that traditional arts still have much use. I try to get everything I can out of them. I just want to avoid combative sports.

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          • #20
            Just remember when your in somebody elses school give them the respect that you would expect to get. I always do this.

            BUT THE TRUTH IS MY LAST INSTRUCTOR DISRESPECTED ME AND DEEPLY INSIDE HURT ME!!!

            SO I MUST SAY, IF I'M SO LUCKY TO BE IN THE POSION, I WILL ENJOY THE DAY THAT I KNOCK HIM OUT!!!!

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            • #21
              I don't mean to be nosy, and please don't answer if this is too personal, but what did your past instructor do to make you angry at him?

              Actually, I'm forced to respect my instructor because he is close to marrying my aunt. Even if he wasn't capable of becoming my uncle I would still respect this man. He is very hardworking, honest, has a good since of humor, and he's a damn good fighter. He's a lot of what I want to become. I consider myself lucky to be taught by him now that I think about it.
              Last edited by Siegfried; 02-08-2003, 05:48 PM.

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              • #22
                No comment except I'm NOT referring to My Jun Fan Gung-Fu instructor. He is like my brother and I would have no chance in touching him anyway.


                I was referring to someone who teaches an art that is known for its instructors to compete and to be all around badasses!

                HE KNOWS A LOT OF TECHNIQUE BUT HE IS TO CHICKEN TO COMPETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                Just the truth!!!!!!!!!
                Last edited by akja; 02-08-2003, 07:56 PM.

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                • #23
                  I know quite a few people who are to scared to compete. They say stuff like: "I just don't like tournements, its impossible to win anything with all those people there. Or, "those tournaments are hard, but if it came to a real fight I would have no problem." OK, maybe the rules are a little hard to deal with, I tell people who ask me what the tournaments are like: " it is sort of fun to do it every now and then, if you just get your lazy ass out there and fight." But a raw street fight can be more difficult from my experience because the people are so unpredictable and they don't give a rat's as about your health, unlike people in a Karate tournament.

                  Competing, isn't really a big deal to me, and it definately isn't why I practice martial arts. But the occasional karate tournement can be sort of interesting, though when it comes to the God awful rules it gets annoying.

                  My teacher participates in tournaments, but only the advanced ones where he gets to go to exotic places like Hawaii, must be nice , I mean to be a master of Karate and travel all over the world competing.

                  All in all, I think competing is a useful way of seeing some of the things you have truly learned so far, that is if you can't seem to get into a raw, unrefined fight. (much more dangerous, but much more applicable to teaching you lessons you never forget)
                  Last edited by Siegfried; 02-08-2003, 09:20 PM.

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