Bruce Lee's JKD and Dan Inosanto

[Juanchogespacho]

Hey Ms J , you're knife is no match for my 12,000 pound elephant, FOOL!



P.S. FOOL is my trademark, fool. I am the one and ONLY Razwell of many MA sites.

[Tameo]

Withought his wing chun training, bruce lee would not be a famous martial artist at all. He would be just an average mma dude withought wing chun, I hear so much bs how he barrely did any wc thats what made up most of his style

[halfbeat]

jkd an dan inosanto an all the other students ..

can't take it anymore just like ted wong, thats why ted started teaching!!!!
inosanto is a stick an knife man thats it!!! remember,when bruce was alive
every one was a human being! after he died dan became philipino, ive met
most of the oridginal students, the only one who know's what bruce did is
ted wong, dont listen to me just go to one of his classes. ill give you a hint
the answer is FOOTWORK!!!!!! thanks for putting up with me..halfbeat..

[thtackett]

I guess you never met Bremer. I've worked and sparred most of them. Ted is great. but so is Bremer and Dan Lee.

[gungfuhero]

I think a lot of the problem is that people want JKD to be whatever they are into. A lot of people want to associate what they do with an important name. Perhaps I'm blessed to live out my days in obscurity, so that others won't try and self-promote by hijacking my life's work after I'm dead...

[Freedom]

Remember people that there is one major point that we seem to be missing. These days all anybody cares about is where there lineage in JKD comes from, who taught who, and whether they are 'correct'. My lineage goes through Guro Dan to BL, as does the lineage of many others. For some their lineage goes through Ted Wong to BL, and for others it goes through other instructors yes? Now imagine if Bruce was still alive and someone asked him "Yo Bruce who does your JKD lineage come from?".... I hope you see the futility of the lineage argument through this imaginary quote.

[frank9791]

re

go to the Inosanto Academy website: in addition to FMA, silat, jujitsu, boxing, wing chun, shoot/mma, Indian arts, bando, Muay Thai, wrestling, etc.,


Sifu Inosanto's school teaches Bruce Lee's art exactly as Bruce taguht it. Anyone who ever trained with the man knows that he is much more than a knife-and-stick man.
I believe his junfan classes are now called "jeet kuen" to avoid any copyright issue with the nucleus. The whole argument over originalism is a crock.
That said, as far as I know Ted and Dan are friends, and there is no problem between them that has ever been made public.

[Freedom]

Just in case nobody understood my previous post, the reason this argument in daft is that who taught BL JKD? He did. He did his own research, and discovered what worked for him. This is what we should be doing as well. Guro Dan is doing it properly because he allows his students to research into different arts and create their own personal expression of combat. Most of the OJKD guys (and i say most) teach you Bruce's research. They do not allow you to experiment and find your own expression. (kinda like why Bruce closed down his schools)

[robertlee]

Just in case nobody understood my previous post, the reason this argument in daft is that who taught BL JKD? He did. He did his own research, and discovered what worked for him. This is what we should be doing as well. Guro Dan is doing it properly because he allows his students to research into different arts and create their own personal expression of combat. Most of the OJKD guys (and i say most) teach you Bruce's research. They do not allow you to experiment and find your own expression. (kinda like why Bruce closed down his schools)

OJKD does teach what area what Bruce was showing. BUT you are encoraged to look at other arts and find your own personal freedom. But You have the base line foundation. Of JKD . No matter if its concepts or orginal A person has to be there own person. In learning and understanding. But Agin. as said many times. Just anything is not JKD So leaving JKd as that. AND concepts as that. Either way if it ends up working Works. Personal tools is for each person.

[Kociol]

woah

poor bruce lee, he's not alive to defend his martial arts philosophy. i'd hate to be misinterpreted and not be able to do anything about it. not that i could accuse anyone here of misinterpreting JKD philosophy. all i know is it benefitted me.

people can say that what JKD teaches is inferior. which may or may not be true. its a matter of who teaches it and how smart the teacher is. is s/he willing to come to their own conclusions on what they are teaching or do they simply regurgitate what they learn? JKD philosophy is similiar to all that modern teaching philosophy most public schools use. JKD learning is not about regurgitation, its about analysis, scholarly perspective, learning on your own, etc. if some people look at JKD and say "hey this sucks!" and do their homework, and can learn that "martial arts X" kick is better than what a JKD guy would do or teach, then are they not supporting JKD idealism?

one of the things that bothers me about modern western society Academics
is that while mind and spirit are supposed to be devoloped and well used, the human body seems to be overlooked. what percentage of classes available at most schools and universities make physical education an in depth scholarly pursuit that can be just as enlighting as discovering something that is more governed by the mind or spirit? that's what makes martial arts so awesome. it can be a science if you want it to. this is why i want to major in Kinesiology. i'd like to see how well those classes teach you how to devolope and use the human body.

[John McNabney]

Just in case nobody understood my previous post, the reason this argument in daft is that who taught BL JKD? He did. He did his own research, and discovered what worked for him. This is what we should be doing as well. Guro Dan is doing it properly because he allows his students to research into different arts and create their own personal expression of combat. Most of the OJKD guys (and i say most) teach you Bruce's research. They do not allow you to experiment and find your own expression. (kinda like why Bruce closed down his schools)

I have trained in both groups...Trust me when I respectfully tell you don't know what you are talking about here!......There is no such thing of OJKD......This name was giving by someone who claim not to be a Jeet Kune Do person.....There is only one name and its Jeet Kune Do......As the saying goes "It's just a name, a boat to get across the river; don't fuss over it!.......

Now as far as Jeet Kune Do goes or OJKD......I' ve been taught 1)"Learn The Principles......2)Then Abide By The Principles.......3)Then Dissolve The Principle"........This is how we train "IT", in that order..........Where we are different is.....Instructor's don't show you where Jeet Kune Do has lead them.....That for you to find "IT" for yourself!.....Like it should be......This method of principle are from Bruce Lee himself........If I show my students my JKD and where it has taking me; it would be unfair to them and this method of expressing oneself......

[robertlee]

I have trained in both groups...Trust me when I respectfully tell you don't know what you are talking about here!......There is no such thing of OJKD......This name was giving by someone who claim not to be a Jeet Kune Do person.....There is only one name and its Jeet Kune Do......As the saying goes "It's just a name, a boat to get across the river; don't fuss over it!.......

Now as far as Jeet Kune Do goes or OJKD......I' ve been taught 1)"Learn The Principles......2)Then Abide By The Principles.......3)Then Dissolve The Principle"........This is how we train "IT", in that order..........Where we are different is.....Instructor's don't show you where Jeet Kune Do has lead them.....That for you to find "IT" for yourself!.....Like it should be......This method of principle are from Bruce Lee himself........If I show my students my JKD and where it has taking me; it would be unfair to them and this method of expressing oneself......

Thats why JKD becomes your own personal use. Thats what is yours. We are all different. And yes There is JKD but now we have points of concept. Or the JKD that was handed down. Structure of JKd has tools that are paticular to JKD training. That should be taught. Then let the person test what works for them. Thats the personal. But not the JKD Bruce taught. But parts that was needed of it. BUT after all each art is the same. We never need all of a art to use. And will never be the same as the person standing next to us. So we can never be but just what we set out to be. Improving on our selfs. With the aid of others.

[russellsherry]

bruce lee and dan inosanto

hi guys, i am new to this forum greetings to all, look in many ways bruce was jkd but dan is a good man i train with him every time he comes to australia, he is friendly man who has great skills i was quite impressed as a wing chun person, with his chi sua skills . remember this not many reach bruce lee heights in training bruce did his jkd through this wing chun dan is a a kali man i for one would not have liked to b in his shoes , when bruce died ,eveyone is different in this stye of combtat bruce lee peace russellsherry