Wong Jak Man kicked Brue's ass.

[Nutz]

Originally posted by Thai Bri
I don't think Bruce was ahead of his time at all. People have mixed and matched martial arts amny times before, and a great many styles are just that.

As for the "he created a JKD concept" argument..... Hardly. Half of JKD has a set syllabus to perform, and the other half teach exactly what Bruce used to teach, without developing it one iota.

Still a great Martial Artist. Still a second rate actor. Still an Icon.

If you think simply mashing styles together was what Bruce did then you've seriously missed several points of what JKD represents and what Bruce was attempting to convey.

I guess this just goes to show "you can lead a horse to water....."

[akja]

Originally posted by Thai Bri


You ignorant knob. Kano's Judo was nothing to do with the Olympic Sport of Judo that we see todays. It had atemi waza (strikes and kicks to a dick like you) and kicked ass against all comers. It became a sport after the Second World war when the Americans forbade the Japanese to train in real martial arts.

As for Fairbairn not making impact? He helped design the style of fighting that kept us all free from 1,000 years of Nazi rule, ya dim turd.

Bruce had the "big impact" because of the big films, vibrator features. But for those hardly anyone inthe world would have heard of him. That doesn't do Bruce down. Its just a fact that it was film exposure that brought him to the attention of the masses.


akja - I still don't get what you mean. Can you try again? I do want to understand.

I was just saying that we kind of "agree to disagree" here and there. Its not a personal thing.

My lineage goes to Bruce through Oakland and sometimes when I hear the "crap" that is obvious crap, mostly from youngsters, sometimes I take it to personal and say to much.

[Serrada]

Re: DRG

Originally posted by DRG
" There is no way that Sifu Dan would ever say a thing like that even if it was true, he after all this time is still in awe of what Bruce could do.

Dan refers to himself as Sifu. Hu?

[DRG]

Britany my favorite girl, you still haven’t a clue do you?

“You ignorant knob. Kano's Judo was nothing to do with the Olympic Sport of Judo that we see todays. It had atemi waza (strikes and kicks to a dick like you) and kicked ass against all comers. It became a sport after the Second World war when the Americans forbade the Japanese to train in real martial arts.

As for Fairbairn not making impact? He helped design the style of fighting that kept us all free from 1,000 years of Nazi rule, ya dim turd.

Bruce had the "big impact" because of the big films, vibrator features. But for those hardly anyone inthe world would have heard of him. That doesn't do Bruce down. Its just a fact that it was film exposure that brought him to the attention of the masses.”


Your wrong again. The Japanese have never had a decent striking style in their history. Kano had some karate style strikes in his art mostly taken from Tenshin-Shinyo Ryu big flippin deal we all know how effective a reverse punch is don’t we? Not nearly as effective as the boxing techniques that Lee used. But It seems to me that Kano had more to do with Judo becoming a sport taking some off the Atemi-Waza techniques out of his system in order to introduce Judo into the school systems of Japan here’s a quote indicating this.

“Prof. Kano, realizing there was more to the arts than simply mechanical ways of defeating an opponent, attempted to raise jujitsu to a high moral plain called Judo Upon judo being accepted at that level the sport was introduced into the various colleges in Japan as a requirement, along with other martial arts, prior to graduating from the particular institution in which a student was studying”.

And another this one from http://www.judoinfo.com/kano4.htm.

“As a member of the International Olympic Committee, Kano attended every Olympic Games from the Fifth Olympiad in 1912 in Stockholm to the 1936 Olympics in Berlin, including the 10th Olympiad in Los Angeles in 1932. Kudo asked Kano if Judo should be included in the Olympics and the Shihan replied: "If the IOC asks Japan to include it, then Japan will consider it." In 1913 Jigoro Kano, accompanied by Takasaki and S. Kotani, now international secretary of the Kodokan, went to Geneva to offer Tokyo as the site for the 12th Olympiad in 1940.
In 1935 Kano received the Asahi Prize for outstanding contributions in the fields of art, science and sports. Three years later he went to an IOC meeting in Cairo and succeeded in getting Tokyo nominated for the site of the 1940 Olympics at which Judo was to be included as one of the events for the first time.”

Anyway Kano was his best at throwing and liked them more then anything and that’s primarily what Judo is. I respect Kano’s contribution but I wouldn’t rank him more insightful than Bruce Lee.

Fairbairn saved your ass in WW2 I think not you dimshit some of you Brits seem to forget about huddling in your houses as the Nazi’s bombed the shit out of you, and the Brave Americans that came to your rescue you little bitch! I guess you forgot about D-day and how Americans made up the bulk of the invasion force, as well as how we supplied most of the invasion and the Eastern Front with American men, machines and materials.

Yeah some geek with a hand to hand system saved us from the Nazi’s LOL.

[Szczepankiewicz]

[Thai Bri]

"Fairbairn saved your ass in WW2 I think not you dimshit some of you Brits seem to forget about huddling in your houses as the Nazi’s bombed the shit out of you, and the Brave Americans that came to your rescue you little bitch! I guess you forgot about D-day and how Americans made up the bulk of the invasion force, as well as how we supplied most of the invasion and the Eastern Front with American men, machines and materials."


This view of the Second World War always makes me laugh. It is tru that the Nazis were preparing for War when everyone else was sleeping. When they were ready the made devastating strikes across Europe, and were well on their way to world domination. Only Great Britain stood in their way for so long. We held the line whilst America carried on with its non intervention policy. Ok, you sold us some equipment, and sent us Jim Bob's gun for the Home Guard.

But you only joined in half way through when your hand was forced. Not something to be proud of, is it?

Tee hee.

ps - do a search on Kodokan Judo, and tell us all what you find.

[Serrada]

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz

Right on!



Thai Bri & DRG that still doesn't change the fact that Wong Jak Man kicked Brue's ass.

[M@T]

Yeah, well my girlfriend heard someone mention that Bruce came back from the dead last year, fought Tinky winky from the Teletubies and lost.

Its true I tells ya, just look at this advanced jumping double punch kick technique he's doing

[Serrada]

I don't know about that. Bruce has never been beat'n and never will.

Seriously, It’s great Bruce Lee has inspired our lives so much. That’s good for MA. If you do MA you’ve heard his name and seen his movies. And nothing personal to Thai Bri & DRG I’m just having fun. I think I’ve had enough of this thread. It’s been a good one. Let the legend of Bruce Live on.

[Lizard]

Originally posted by M@T
Yeah, well my girlfriend heard someone mention that Bruce came back from the dead last year, fought Tinky winky from the Teletubies and lost.

Its true I tells ya, just look at this advanced jumping double punch kick technique he's doing

Thats one mean telly tubby!

I heard that they got sued or something in america cos the toys said something that sounded really evil.

I tend to forget details.

[DRG]

Serrada
I’ve studied Bruce and his fighting methods for about forty years. I can tell you there is no way Wong beat Bruce. Wong believes that the Chinese Martial Arts are supreme. And I after studying Gung Fu and JKD formally for close to Twenty five years I can tell you Wing Chun Is among the best of CMAs, and that Wong’s Northern styles, Tai Chi, and Hsing I, all of which I have studied and still sometimes practice, don’t add up to a well rounded fighter. Now I know that Wing Chun, which I have also studied and continue to practice a bit, is pretty one-sided as well but it is still better than most traditional Chinese styles.

Get this, Bruce didn’t stop teaching in Oakland, there were witnesses that say Bruce won, Linda wouldn’t lie about it if he had lost, she would simply say he lost and came back to be better. Bruce wouldn’t have let it go if he had lost, he would have fought Wong again. And Wong and his students and others who don’t like Bruce will only talk shit because he is dead and can’t defend himself. The truth of the matter is you don’t know shit about Bruce.

Bri Thai,
You little pud, I did do a search, and just because you didn’t read my post above that came from a Judo website very well It doesn’t mean that no one else will. But what I know is Kano didn’t have a modern martial art system like Bruce, mixing Jujitsu systems together don’t quite make it, although I do like Judo and Jujitsu and continue to study both as well as BJJ. But I’m sure the majority of the people here can see how stupid you are so it really doesn’t matter.

And we didn’t have to help you in WW2 the Nazi's were never a threat to the U.S., but we knew you Brits were about to go under. We took a while to come to Europe’s aid but we wanted to make sure we could win before we got there, years before D-day we were ramping up the war machine and making the tanks planes, landing ship tanks, bombs in the factories we used to make cars, boats and other things in. Without the U.S. you guys would have been floating in a sea of shit. The only thing that kept you Brits from going down quicker was that we had our fliers and our planes over there keeping the Germans from crossing the English channel and wiping your asses out, seeing as you were barely hanging on. Try making your own searches on the Internet, reading a book or watching the history channel sometime idiot maybe you’ll learn something!

[Serrada]

Originally posted by DRG
Serrada
Bruce wouldn’t have let it go if he had lost, he would have fought Wong again.

He didn't let it go dumbass hence JKD. He always wanted a rematch with Wong. It's about time your learned this after 40 yrs. If you know more about the events of the actual fight I'd like to hear them. Because when you do you'll find the true. Idot!

[DRG]

Suck a big one, you are just talking out your ass!

[sercuerdas]

i can kick bruce's ass because he is dead. let it go.

another point is bruce didn't originate mixing styles. they were all mixed to being with and later seperated for what ever reason. boxing and wrestling were seperated when boxing rules were put in affect. the japanese arts were probably combined to begin with. the gun was probably the leading cause of the state ma were at in the last hundred years.

[Thai Bri]

Originally posted by DRG
Serrada
Bri Thai,
But I’m sure the majority of the people here can see how stupid you are so it really doesn’t matter.

And we didn’t have to help you in WW2 the Nazi's were never a threat to the U.S., but we knew you Brits were about to go under.

One. The majority of people CAN see how stupid I am. No argument. They cannot see how stupid you are though, as trhe human mind cannot truly comprehend infinity.

Two. Of course the Nazis were a threat to the US you dick brain. They were carving up the world a bit at a time you moron. They would have got round to you when they were good and ready. You just made the mistake Chamberlain made.

Bruce Lee was not the first to come up with the concept of taking what works from each art and rejecting what is useless. That is as plain as the snot on your brain.

Fond regards!