ITF Sparring

[Piston]

What you said about ITF is basically the same stuff I was tuaght in WTF. The only difference is the tournament rules and the focus for tournament fighting in the WTF more then self defense.

Then why the hell don't WTF'ers use their hands if they are taught to use them?

Cheers for the heads up on KA's, I think I will study it further, the history of all MA's is kinda murky and full of Bullshido, so I guess when I get the time I'll look into it.

[Andrew WA]

Because most tournament fighters are too cool to put their hands up. They would rather block for points from their chests then guard their head for points. They also think their arms are fast enough.

If you get involved with tournaments you arnt going to develop realistic skills. But fortunately the WTF schools I went to tuaght me to always keep my hands up no matter what.

[Andrew WA]

Hmm... I don't know about that, remember in TKD a BB means you've only mastered the basics rather than total mastery. I was talking to my teacher and she told me that many simply give up advancing through the dans because the exams are too tough for them. Absoloutely nothing wrong with studying from the books, thats what they're there for, but its my belief that they are to compliment what your teacher teaches you rather than replace it.



I think if a TKD school tries to start up in the UK without the T.A.G.B's appreciation, it becomes incredibly difficult for it to get anywhere i.e no assistance financially, no advertisement except your own, no participation in recognised gradings, no validation for tournaments.



No ours is most definetly not a tournament school, only two of us from the class (myself included) are participating in the British opens (27th November in Coventry y'all!), our teacher views the tournaments as entirely optional not something to aspire to, and views them as a means of a.) social gathering for all TKD'ists and b.) for teachers to compare their teaching methods through their students.



I think I have precisely the same book, produced by A & C Black am I correct? Do remember that they have to pose for each photo without movement and thus they may not look as they would in real life. I'm not sure what else you really want out of the pictures mate, they look fine to me, plus I think the technique looks fine, their feet and hands are all in the correct positions. You may also want to start with the White belt to yellow belt books first (I'm not being patronising) simply because of the huge gap in between ITF and WTF. Perhaps maybe you've been training only through books for too long?



His new wife actually, but we don't care over here much either.

You have to keep in mind that not all schools teach well and if your schools sucks and you have a black belt and understand the basics and are not going to advance further then you need to take my advice.

And I have not been training through books only. The books I read are not really about TKD its mainly books on strategy and thinking. Like Book of Five Rings, Living The MArtial Way and some history types of books and sometimes technique books as well. Most of my learning comes from actually experience training with others or even getting into fights (not saying I want to fight it just happens). And the british book I have I got because I already knew the white to yellow belt forms from some ITF student. I also think that the british guys do forms a little different then ITF schools in USA. My goal is just to really learn about TKD in all ways and the philosphies it truly teaches and not rely on local schools who dont know what they are talking about. I also want form applications as well.
I also do not think tournaments are an effective way to compare different teachers teaching since all they students will do is tournament fight and do forms. You cant really get quality techniques from tournament fighting. But tournaments are a good way for training if your goal is not to simply win a prize or medal. Your goal should only be to test your skills and give you a feel of a fight even though it has a lot of strict rules. Its good for cardio too.

[seanyseanybean]

Basically most of the KAs at the time were Japanese karate influenced. I know one school had a lot of chinese influence but I forgot which one.

Tang Soo Do =

60% Soo Bahk
30% Northen Chinese
10% Southern Chinese

TSD is both a hard and soft style, derriving hardness from Soo Bahk, and soft flowing movements from Northen Chinese systems.

[Andrew WA]

Ya thats the one.

Taekwondo is:

70% Shotokan

20% southern chinese

10% Taekyon


Taekyon is/was:

80% southern chinese

20% northern chinese

Hwa Rang Do is:

80% Taekondo

20% Hapkido

100% rippoff modern art crap haha

Hapkido is:

80% Aikijistu

20% Taekyon


I dont know I am just making up random numbers.