TKD vs American Kickboxing

[kuk sool won]

Lol excessive... you are freaking joke. A bunch of old Koreans, huh? Lol you think you can discriminate and display bigotry just because you're a big bad moderator, huh?

Hypocrite

Lol... the sheer arrogance of people that think they know everythign about MA.... it really surprises and aggravates me

Hypocrite

You sparred two people in the top ten? Please... don't lie. If you're going to lie, make it good. If not, provide us with some evidence.

How is that so hard to beleive, i sparred with the KSW world champion just yesterday and i haven't had a long martial arts life like eX has, im positive he has sparred some great practioners

WTF is just as good as any other style. .

Then why are you asking which style is better?

So basically: MY FRIEND, YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM THE BJJ/MUAY THAI MEATHEADS THAT BASH OTHER STYLES AND HAVE NO RESPECT AT ALL FOR OTHER STYLES.

...and you mock my language skills? Needless to say but hypocrite...

Hmm what a weird cycle... BJJ Meatheads diss TKD... This idiot disses a style of TKD... lololol

Almost all your threads are about this!

[tkd_person89]

Do you have anything useful to do with your life? I don't think so. Thank you for that absolutely useless post that wasted several precious seconds of my life.

Was that meant to insult me? You didn't do a very good job.

[Xtschneider]

why do you keep bashing BJJ and all of that, its a vicious cycle, grow up and stop bitching TKD_P

[tkd_person89]

I never bashed BJJ. I have respect for all styles, unlike some people in here. Find where I said "BJJ SUCKS" and then I'll believe you.

Secondly, you tell me to grow up. Why? Because I have been argumentative and rude? I'm not crazy. I'm only rude and argumentative to people who rag on my style (WTF taekwondo). So before you accuse me of immaturity, why don't you consider the fact that people like Excessive have no respect for other style of TKD except his own (ATA).

[eXcessiveForce]

I really don't respect any style. I respect people who earn it.

I have found great instructors in many different systems. That said, I'm my experience I have found WTF lacking. You say it is your style, but I have also trained in it so it is our style.

I left it to teach ATA, because I found the system had advantages. All systems have problems. It is up to the instructor to fix them.

That is why out hand work resembles more boxing and JKD than traditional TKd. I train BJJ three times a week usually (this has been an usual year for me though due to lots of surgery)

I have sparred with a person who trained with the olympic team in korea. He was a decent fighter for his style. However as I said, I no longer train for tournaments so I would find the rules of olympic tkd too restrictive.

It all depends what you train for. I train for self defense. So I use thai style elbows and knees, BJJ for my ground work, Kali for my knife work, and JKD for hands. I'm still learning but it has been a long time since someone showed me anything knew in TKD that I found value in.

[Acitic]

So I use thai style elbows and knees, BJJ for my ground work, Kali for my knife work, and JKD for hands.

poor bastard that trys to mug you! do you do any stick work in kali or do you focus only on knife?

p.s. sorry for getting off topic... i was just interested.

[Acitic]

I never bashed BJJ. I have respect for all styles, unlike some people in here. Find where I said "BJJ SUCKS" and then I'll believe you.

Secondly, you tell me to grow up. Why? Because I have been argumentative and rude? I'm not crazy. I'm only rude and argumentative to people who rag on my style (WTF taekwondo). So before you accuse me of immaturity, why don't you consider the fact that people like Excessive have no respect for other style of TKD except his own (ATA).

I said "BJJ SUCKS"

see i found it!!!

[gabbah]

All systems have problems. It is up to the instructor to fix them.

Do you mean from a self defense point of view? Because if you only look at it given the rules of that sport, the style is often optimized for those rules/point system.
I train in kickboxing and I have no illusions that it is anywhere near self defense. I don't try it to be self defense, I train for the sport. I think one should be clear about what the goal is with ones training.

[tkd_person89]

lol acitic.. altering my quotes like that... you're a pretty pussy ass martial artist with no honor. i can already tell that from how you can't paste the WHOLE quote.

i never bashed ANY style you immature dumbass

[Acitic]

lol acitic.. altering my quotes like that... you're a pretty pussy ass martial artist with no honor. i can already tell that from how you can't paste the WHOLE quote.

i never bashed ANY style you immature dumbass

i never altered anything..... i just took what i liked and threw away what i didn't..... just a side note... that relects how i train.... if something does work for me i chuck it! I take waht is a effective for me and work from there...

[Acitic]

correction

i never altered anything..... i just took what i liked and threw away what i didn't..... just a side note... that relects how i train.... if something does work for me i chuck it! I take waht is a effective for me and work from there...

just as a side note... i don't mean i neglect my weaknesses. I mean I take what works best for me and use it.

[kuk sool won]

to think i used to be like TKD_person...... oh the horror

Well eventually he will realise how utterly wrong almost all of his comments are and how his intellect stems little further than insults, which i might is nothing special either, at least add some taste to your arguements.

'Do you have anything useful to do with your life? I don't think so. Thank you for that absolutely useless post that wasted several precious seconds of my life.'

'Was that meant to insult me? You didn't do a very good job.'

...and please don't reply.

[tkd_person89]

no, I think i will reply, dumbass. Clearly, you are too unintelligent to understand any of my comments. So before commenting and interfering on an exchange here on this thread that you have no f-ing place in, why don't you think about your own stupidity?

Idiot... So what are your views, O' Legendary Kook Sool Won fighter?

[kuk sool won]

no, I think i will reply, dumbass. Clearly, you are too unintelligent to understand any of my comments. So before commenting and interfering on an exchange here on this thread that you have no f-ing place in, why don't you think about your own stupidity?

Idiot... So what are your views, O' Legendary Kook Sool Won fighter?

behold the extent of TKD_Person89's insults! 'dumbass', thats very clever of you, i like the use of originality. Lets degrade this thread yet further.

'So before commenting and interfering on an exchange here on this thread that you have no f-ing place in, why don't you think about your own stupidity?'

I LOVE IT!! If you didn't want people commenting on it you have a few things you might want to do -

1.) Don't post
2.) Post it somewhere other than an open forum, try PM's?
3.) Don't post

What are these comments i so sorely misunderstand?

b.t.w its Kuk, thats K-U-K Sool Won.

[tkd_person89]

I'll spell KOOK SOOL WON however the hell i want, asswipe. I'm Korean, you aren't. I think I have the greater say in how my language should be romanized, cocksucker. You accuse me of being unintelligent, but why don't you look at your posts? They don't exactly scream "brainpower". lol