They say TKD is more on sports than MA...

[GranFire]

I knew it...

[kuk sool won]

Yeh thats what the monkey stylist is doing, trying to find where abouts he's passed out

[GranFire]

Dunno, wasn't there when the class picture was taken...

[Tom Yum]

Did he throw up first?

[GranFire]

He passed out!

[Tom Yum]

I think it's in the nature of modern culture...most of us will never be in the situation to use any Martial Art other than in the controled environment of a dojo...as a sport.

Most people are not willing to make the mental commitment to Martial Arts vs. sport. It's something you do (or drag your kids to) between engagements and other activities...to say you are doing it.

Some schools and organisations are better at it than others...

Where's the drunken cock style on that banner?

[Tom Yum]

It depends who you ask.
You'll get some using a 'two thousand year' story.

Here's another one for you though;

http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/pagoda/6968/TKD.htm

and another;

http://www.allmartialarts.com/KIXCO/.../taekwondo.htm

Tae Kwon Do was literally founded 3.6 billion years ago by Grandmaster Kim during the "early" days of Korean history...

[Troll Virus]

But, How do you relate TKD to Shotokan? I've taken both and they are totally different entities.

It depends who you ask.
You'll get some using a 'two thousand year' story.

Here's another one for you though;

http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/pagoda/6968/TKD.htm

and another;

http://www.allmartialarts.com/KIXCO/History/taekwondo.htm

[Hardball]

It's whatever you make of it.

It's no great secret that TKD is 'dot to dot' Shotokan Karate, which is 'in itself' a 'dumbed down' art by many accounts.

Take what value from it that you can.
That might sound very derogatory, but I've met and trained with many excellent TKD people in my time.
When i say that, it's the people, and not the art they practice, I respect.

I agree that there are a lot of good and respectable TKD practioners in the world. Agreed, no argument. But, How do you relate TKD to Shotokan? I've taken both and they are totally different entities.

[Hardball]

I just like to comment about TKD is now practiced as sports rather than MA coz of competitions like olympics and other stuffs but i really want to see this as an MA coz it has the kicks, the defense system and the value of this art so MA's ter what comes in your mind when they say or talk about TKD is it sports, MA or BOTH??

What's so bad about that? The sport of judo came from the martial art of Japanese Jujitsu.

[GranFire]

dude i hate to say thid but tkd has nothing to offer except tournament fighting and pretty belt.that cost money every time you buy them.yes i will say this that tkd is a beatiful martial arts with is kick but that is it.

What do you do?

[bjjp]

dude i hate to say thid but tkd has nothing to offer except tournament fighting and pretty belt.that cost money every time you buy them.yes i will say this that tkd is a beatiful martial arts with is kick but that is it.

[GranFire]

it's the people, and not the art they practice, I respect.

Double edged sword....but a nice way to put it!

[Troll Virus]

I just like to comment about TKD is now practiced as sports rather than MA coz of competitions like olympics and other stuffs but i really want to see this as an MA coz it has the kicks, the defense system and the value of this art so MA's ter what comes in your mind when they say or talk about TKD is it sports, MA or BOTH??

It's whatever you make of it.

It's no great secret that TKD is 'dot to dot' Shotokan Karate, which is 'in itself' a 'dumbed down' art by many accounts.

Take what value from it that you can.
That might sound very derogatory, but I've met and trained with many excellent TKD people in my time.
When i say that, it's the people, and not the art they practice, I respect.

[GranFire]

I think it's in the nature of modern culture...most of us will never be in the situation to use any Martial Art other than in the controled environment of a dojo...as a sport.

Most people are not willing to make the mental commitment to Martial Arts vs. sport. It's something you do (or drag your kids to) between engagements and other activities...to say you are doing it.

Some schools and organisations are better at it than others...