One of the the best TKD fighters

[Tom Yum]

Serkan Yilmaz, K-1 record 3 W- 2KO - 4L

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3I_T...elated&search=

Serkan is able to land spinning wheel kicks, spinning back kicks and axe kicks again professional K-1 kickboxers and do damage. He's knocked out some B-class fighters and has demonstrated heart (decision losses) to some of K-1's best.

Not bad considering the rap that TKD gets from many. I've seen TKD guys win street fights because they can kick high, cold, hard and fast...

[3mptin3ss]

im not impressed at all.

too bad he didnt train in muay thai instead, he may have actually been good

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

well i'm impressed, though some of that might just have been because of the music

but come on 3mpti, the video shows him landing some good stuff on thai fighters

but as long as we're saying which MA he should have done, with that quick spin i wish he'd done judo

[kuk sool won]

I have a question, how is his nose still that long?

[Tom Yum]

im not impressed at all.

too bad he didnt train in muay thai instead, he may have actually been good

Who says this guys fight career is done? He's probably working on his fight game as we speak and will probably be back.

Instead of focusing on what's not muay thai, consider that he is sharpening and fine tuning his TKD skills to what they need to be.

He fought a decision loss against Masato. Can you fight a full-contact fight against a pro-middleweight and finish the 3rd round...

there you go.

[kuk sool won]

basically, these days any effective fighter is doin muay thai no matter what their style. Roundhouse kicks are now a 'thai kick', teep kicks are now a 'thai kick', any kind of standing grappling is the 'thai clinch', any use of the knee is a 'thai knee', any low kick is a 'thai technique', any other standup style just cant win even if the fighter is effective, its becoming silly. Lets face it Muay Thai fighters outside the traditonal MT circle look more like western kickboxers than anything else.

[WildWest.]

True Kuk Sool Won. There does seem to be a MT conspiracy going on. People forget Kyokushin teach leg kicks, powerfully, and train good fighters in K1 competitions as well as Seidokaikan Karate also.

I do MT, but MT techniques are also taught in other systems as well as part of that arts syllabus. There is a lot of cross over in MA's.

[Nips]

^_^ We stole the leg kicks from MT though (Kyokushin I mean). Haven't looked into it myself, but apparently some Kyokushin fighters went over to Thailand to fight, APPARRENTLY did pretty well but came back with injured thighs. So, we stole it and chucked it into our sylabus. But hey, shouldn't that be hwo martial arts work? If you see a hole in your teachings, why not close it? It's just evolution of the arts.

[13ang]

If I was going to train for MMA, I wouldnt train taekwondo. I enjoy doing taekwondo because I wont end up with brain damage doing it, but I will admit muay thai is most likely a more effective combat style, mainly due to the endurance you build up in the weapon areas. However I find shin kicks somewhat of a mixed bag. You realize how close you have to be to kick someone in the head with a shin kick =/

[13ang]

He kicked a muay thai fighters ass in that vid btw

edit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbfLuSZbIxI

better video of him I think

[WildWest.]

He kicked a muay thai fighters ass in that vid btw

edit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbfLuSZbIxI

better video of him I think

So MT is a shit style and TKD is the best?

[13ang]

In the post before that I clearly stated that I think mt is a more complete combat art then tkd, despite the fact that I train tkd and not MT.

Im just pointing it out to show that results are 90% based on the person, not 90% based on the style the style, as so many seem to think.

[Tom Yum]

So MT is a shit style and TKD is the best?

No. Its just one instance of a TKD practitioner who can fight professionally.

[WildWest.]

That's what I thought. Some people get satisfaction by "claiming" one style is better than another by one example fight. I just wanted to see who would take the bait.

[Maxx]

I'm definitely impressed by Serkan's showings so far. He's won a few and he's lost a few, but he's definitely got a lot of heart and he's highly aggressive. I think it will be interesting to see how things go for him as his personal style matures. I also think that he'll be good for the K1 in the long run. There haven't been any really notable flamboyant kickers who fought effectively in K1 since Andy Hug died in 2000.

He'll definitely be one to watch.