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    over the past 20 years I have mainly been working on kicking, and how kicking has evolved

    unfortunantly I think that kicking in TKD has degraded and is now days pretty damn useless


    but what are your opinions

  • #2
    but from the more modern systems of TKD particularly the ones claiming to be authentic, they tend to forget the basic fundamentals behind the basis of kicking. every kick i have ever seen from any style i have ever seen should be running on these principals, and if you have a look at old martial arts training/sparing videos they do, but during the 90's you can see a global de-evolution of kicking especially in TKD

    wtf tkd kicking is a joke seriously it is and i have a black belt in it. itf isn't far behind

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    • #3
      Kick cold, kick low, kick hard, both front leg and rear leg. It's simple.

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      • #4
        Old Guys

        For street kicking I teach my students to stretch 20 minutes a day, keep the kicks around torso level or lower and if it's ugly then it probably works. Pretty and flashy probably does not work. Bruce Lee had it right when he said " a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick"

        Tournament and MMA kicking is a horse of a different color which I am not qualified to speak on. I'll be 52 next week thus I'm definately kicking low. LOL

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        • #5
          Have to rely on fist

          Kicking to the head is an awesome skill to have, unfortunately I have never been able to do it--even in my youth.

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          • #6
            Roundhouse Kick

            Do you prefer the instep, shin or ball?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hardball View Post
              Do you prefer the instep, shin or ball?
              me i like shin or ball, but it really does depend on what i'm wearing easy example been that if i have heavy boots aka steel caps on i'm gonna kick with my toes rather shatter bones then bruise them


              kicking is probably one of the harder things to learn well in martial arts

              you have to remember speed balance,control, rotational force in correlation with your step, body position, hip position, target area kinda hard to write down and hard to teach, but deffinantly worth taking the time to learn as good kicks only add to your arsenal

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              • #8
                Yea it can take months to be a good kicker and years to be a great kicker. Definately a "Must Have" for any self defense arsenal. I learned by holding on to a chair for balance.

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                • #9
                  Covert Weapon

                  Originally posted by Movement View Post
                  me i like shin or ball, but it really does depend on what i'm wearing easy example been that if i have heavy boots aka steel caps on i'm gonna kick with my toes rather shatter bones then bruise them
                  Along with steel toe boots I have several pair of steel toe sneakers but I've never had to use them.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hardball View Post
                    Yea it can take months to be a good kicker and years to be a great kicker. Definately a "Must Have" for any self defense arsenal. I learned by holding on to a chair for balance.
                    agreed it can take years, but with holding the chair I don't think thats a good idea, try kicking over the chair slowly whilst watching yourself in the mirror, make sure you get the dynamics of the kick right, it's a much better way to practice kicking as you don't learn to user the chair for support.

                    I've used kicks bouncing saved my scrawny ass a few times

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                    • #11
                      Long Range Weapon

                      Originally posted by Movement View Post
                      agreed it can take years, but with holding the chair I don't think thats a good idea, try kicking over the chair slowly whilst watching yourself in the mirror, make sure you get the dynamics of the kick right, it's a much better way to practice kicking as you don't learn to user the chair for support.

                      I've used kicks bouncing saved my scrawny ass a few times
                      The purpose of holding the chair is to teach my beginning students the mechanics of pivoting the support foot.

                      Kicking over the chair is more of a technique for my intermediate students.

                      Yea, I've used low to mid level kicks in the street--they are a Respect getter.

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                      • #12
                        It's a balance thing, right Hardball?

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                        • #13
                          I did alot of yoga-type leg and hip stretches before each class.

                          The biggest help for kicks was practice, practice, practice - working on form and repetition. As I got better, I was able to speed up and snap them out.

                          Holding onto the chair was good. As was leaning against the wall.

                          I don't kick as much these days - if so, they are low-line or to the center of mass.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tom Yum View Post
                            I did alot of yoga-type leg and hip stretches before each class.

                            The biggest help for kicks was practice, practice, practice - working on form and repetition. As I got better, I was able to speed up and snap them out.

                            Holding onto the chair was good. As was leaning against the wall.

                            I don't kick as much these days - if so, they are low-line or to the center of mass.
                            I love low line kicks. Stomp kicks to the center of mass too.

                            I love to drive the ball of my foot into the side of the knee and then drag the instep down the shin and stake the foot.

                            Works real well with boots on.

                            One thing I never do is kick with the top of my foot though. Too many small bones, not enough protection from impact either.

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                            • #15
                              Soft Targets

                              Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
                              I love to drive the ball of my foot into the side of the knee and then drag the instep down the shin and stake the foot.

                              Works real well with boots on.

                              One thing I never do is kick with the top of my foot though. Too many small bones, not enough protection from impact either.
                              When kicking with the instep, aim for soft targets like the ribs or the side of the knee.

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