I need help

[bvermillion]

I would say any grappling art that also teaches some basic stand up. If people are just picking on you and aren't after your life; striking them or just knocking the crap out of them might not be the right choice. I would reccommend you learn some basic standing joint locks, but make sure you can back it up with a striking game. Joint locks dont work on everybody and you dont want to just end up pissing people off. I believe the preemptive move is very important it doesn't neccessarily have to be a strike. If a guy goes to shove you trap his arm and put him in your favorite submission move it will probably be the last time he shoves you. If you are confident enough to fight back they probably wont bother you unless they just dont like you.

[CKD]

Also check out www.mma.tv for more schools if the other ones I posted were not near enouph to you.

[Gotaiken]

If you are 5'0 tall, and can bench 200 pounds, I'm guessing you are probably a stocky built person, who may or may not be quick, but most likely isn't. You are never going to have a reach advantage, so I would recommend boxing to start with. I believe boxing offers the most effective ways of closing distance.

Most importantly I think you should expand on your ground fighting and take downs. With your low center of gravity and strength you should be damn near impossible to take down, so you should be able to control people in the clinch. You said yourself that's your natural strength, so exploit it.

Use boxing to compliment your natural abilities. Once you can slip punches and close the distance effectively you will be able to trade punches when you have to, and take the person to the ground when you want to.

Nope, not stocky, im 117lbs and work out A LOT (thought it would help me fight better) so i just got strong over time. sadly strength has nothing to do with fighting unless you can first close the gap, so should i do boxing or Muay thai??? Thanx in advance.

[CKD]

I would suggest mma because it contains both muay thai and boxing along with wrestling.

[dkm]

Just buy a damn gun.

[Gotaiken]

Just buy a damn gun.

lol real funny, so i can shoot someone, go to jail, and then ima wish i learned how to fight, cause.... (do i really need to finish)

[jules]

Box. That's the fastest way you will learn how to protect yourself. other art's including MT take longer to learn just because all the stuff you have to learn. Box. If you are on a time limit (meaning you are in a hurry to learn how to defend yourself). Boxing is the way to go.

[Maxetai]

Box. That's the fastest way you will learn how to protect yourself. other art's including MT take longer to learn just because all the stuff you have to learn. Box. If you are on a time limit (meaning you are in a hurry to learn how to defend yourself). Boxing is the way to go.

I agree with Jules on this one. Box for about 4-6 months and then you could move into Thaiboxing if you wish.
MMA is a must for street combat, so BJJ, Judo, or wrestling should eventually fit in to your repotoire.
Practical fighting oriented arts for the street are extremely usefull like JKD, Krav Maga, Senshido, etc...
Remember that "closing the gap" as you mention is another way of stating that you are well versed to fight in any range (kicking, punching, trapping/standup grappling, grappling/wrestling).

[S.Anucha]

MMA is a must for street combat

Its not a must if you are already learning a full system. You do not need to mix martial arts for street effectivness.... thats a little bit of an exaggeration.

Full systems could be: Pahuyuth (the name given for the group of Thai fighting systems), Bando (the name given for the group of Burmese fighting systems), some systems of Silat. In fact there is quite a lot of street effective martial arts and quite a few ground fighting systems that match BJJ effectiveness...... you probably will ask me but if you search this forum I am sure you'll find a thread where I already gave these examples.

The common misconception is that because Mixed Martial Arts competitions have BJJ, Muay Thai, Judo, and some wrestling systems as dominant styles then that must mean all others are usless unless mixed. The thing is that in a street fight you really dont want to fight Mixed Martial Art style, why? because thats a competition and a competiton doesnt have all the risks a street fight will have, self defense strategy is not the same as MMA fighting.

Mixing a martial art should be considered if the system you already study is neglecting an area of fighting, i.e Tae Kwan Do doesnt have any clinch grapple or ground work so maybe studying a system that deals with clinch grapple (e.g. Judo, Muay Thai, Lethwei etc) would be a good idea and one with ground work (e.g. Naban, Ling-Lom, JuJitsu etc)

You dont need to worry about NHB (which isnt really "no holds barred") and MMA fighting unless you are competing in these events.

a good self defense system should never teach you to fight on the ground! a good selfdefense system should teach and train in such a way that you will become aware of fouling, i.e Pahuyuth and Bando train in awareness of fouling. A good selfdefense system should teach you about non-balistic weapon handling, i.e how to defend against a knife attack and use sticks or improvised weapons for self defense, Pahuyuth, Bando and Phillipno systems deal with this kind of fighting, a good self defense system should be easy to learn, i.e all of the above.

dont fall into the "well if it isnt present in UFC, NHB or MMA then it must be weak" attitude, thats bullshit. Honestly. and to think that it isnt means you have little knowledge of fighting or what South East Asia has to offer in terms of self defense fighting systems.

there are countless fight competitons held in S.E.Asia that would make NHB and UFC seem lame.

I personally study at the moment 2 of the Pahuyuth systems and soon to be one from Bando. I have experience fighting competitively and continue to do so, I know weakness when I feel it and I am quite confidient in saying that you dont really need to mix martial arts unless you are fighting MMA!


Boxing is a good choice for practicality.

[Maxetai]

S.Anucha,
I agree with you. By MMA I mean being able to fight in all ranges.
I am not doubting that some systems either MMA or Traditional cover all the ranges; they do.
Thanks for the clarification though, as I'm sure it helps a lot of the readers of this forum!

[Gotaiken]

ok boxing it is, at least to start with, i am on a time limit and want to be able to fight ASAP so ill go with boxing.

[CKD]

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