What do you consider the best "strike" to use on the ground?

[fascistfury]

duchman - i don't have to know shit about striking to know that using elbows and knees are both devastating on the ground. i have had great success w/ both. you're starting to sound like patterson!

[Ronin]

Note to Self:

Vale Tudo-style ground-strikes can ruin your whole day.

Or your opponent's.

TK used to use those elbows to the thighs a lot, and I've heard the Lion's Den guys like to open the guard using a knee-smash to the tail-bone.

That one hurts just thinking about it.

[fil]

Headbuts while efective are not for every fighter, some people will end up cutting themselves even with good technique its more related to how tough your skin tissue is. Example of headbuts resulting in a loss, Macaco vs Pele 2 ,Macaco was throwing hard headbuts and it defenitly was hurting Pele but he opened a huge gash that resulted in him spilling alot of blood and leading to a docter stopage. In a an IVC bout Milton Bahai was easily dominating his oponent and ended up opening a massive cut on himself from using headbuts(the bone was showing!). Just imagine if Oleg used headbuts his face would be raining blood....

Elbows are great and if you miss with the elbow it is still possiable to damage your oponent with the forearm landing. Also knees from side position are efective, you can really wake up your oponent.

[Chad W. Getz]

I was originally taught in one of my first grappling lessons the rub into the thigh. That's what he did. I like to take things to the extreme. The guys I train with know that if they see me setting up for it(pushing with all my weight on their lower abdoman to push my body up and land on my elbows into their thighs) to just open their legs for me. Of course we can't do this all the times to friends, but we've all got the idea of that. This and hooking the foot to throw the leg over and get the side were the first two moves that were taught to me as the basics of escaping the mount.

But to stay on topic...I like elbows and headbutts, and I think that too many people forget to realize that elbows can be struck almost anywhere, if not anywhere, on the body with great effect. The chin is also a great tool, maybe not for striking but for rubbing into the, as mentioned previously, cheekbones or eyesockets and neck, shoulders, etc. For the head strikes I like to set up the elbows and little hammer fist with eye gouges.

Check out the clinch structure thread as well.

[Edited by Chad W. Getz on 12-08-2000 at 08:18 PM]

[duchman]

knee on the stomach and kick him in the head.

P.s How many people here ever used a strike ground? no offence just like to know

[Ryu (non-working password]

Dutch, I have.

I train them a lot.


Ryu

[duchman]

Ryu,
What do you train?


TRAIN YOURE WEAPONS HARD! AND FEEL THE POWER OF A HEAVY HITTER SO YOU NEVER HAVE TO BE AFRAID OF GETTTING HIT AGAIN!

[Ryu (non-working password]

When not doing strict judo or BJJ,
I always train ground and pound. I have wrestling dummies that I lay into with headbutts, and elbows, and knees. You can get a great workout, and the dummy never complains. You can go full contact G&P.
Sparring is different, because if you go hard with a headbutt, you'll hurt someone. Same with elbows, etc. You can wear padding and do it, or you can tone it down. But the realism gets a bit diminished when you're "not trying to hurt him." So both are good in my opinion. But you need both.

In fights, I have never really pummeled anyone. Never had to.

Ryu

[Evilution]

Elbows from anywhere.

Knees from side control or north-south position.

Punches from the mount.

But thats just me.

[duchman]

i got into a fight a couple of days ago on school just took him down and kicked him in te head while standing!
It almost got me suspended!

>AIN HARD AND TRAIN FULL CONTACT<

[Chad W. Getz]

When we spar with macho headgear with face cage, we do headbutts and full elbows, hammers to the face. When we don't use the mask, we'll punch, no elbows, no hard headbutts.