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Full Contact Hawaii
"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."
I guess I would say Karelin lost rather than Gardner won.
First off, I'm not a Greco Roman wrestler, so I may be mistaken and would appreciate a correction. NBC just aired the match, and to me, Karelin was the aggressor. Karelin attempted techniques. Gardner did not mount or threaten Karelin in any way that I could see.
When Karelin was penalized a point, Gardner's hands also came lose, so perhaps it was a timing issue (whoever let go first is penalized?)
To me, Gardner showed he could hang with Karelin, but I saw nothing that hinted that Gardner could beat Karelin.
Then again, I'm not a wrestler, so I may be talking out of my a$$....
I watched the match as well and I'm thinking along the same lines as you.
You are correct, the first person to break the grip is penalized a point. Karelin broke just before Gardner and was penalized. Gardner held on and was called numerous times for stalling.
I wouldn't be surprised if the elevation (over 6,000 ft) played a roll in the lack of energy displayed by Karelin. Overall, not a very exciting match.
even though he may have lost to a fat ass-much respect goes out to karelin for his illustrious career-i havent heard of a career like that since.......rickson? maybe this guy should look towards MMA to finish his career off right.
This certainly was not the Karelin of old. Karelin really did lose this rather than the US guy winning it. If they wrestled every day again this week, Karelin would probably win every battle - but none of that matters)
One thing that you could really sense was the attitude from Karelin - that he "owned" the mat. Unfortunately, there was no urgency from him to back this up and to finish the American early. Once the match went into the late second round and overtime, he had nothing left. The American has to be given all credit. Whilst he did nothing but defend the one penalty point, he did something that no one else has done in years and that is get the decision over the great man.
Atomic, what elevation are you talking about ?
Just as an aside, was buying a drink before going in and who should be behind me but Renzo Gracie. I think I was probably the only person in Sydney who recognised him. (If it wasn't him, it sure looked like him).
If the U.S. Basketball team can come VERY close to losing to anyone, all bets are off. Jeezasss! The Lithuania game was unbelievable. It would've gone down as the biggest f*ck up in the history of sports.
I wonder how the U.S. basketball players would've felt when they got back home.
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