MA for the impatient

[nk_london]

Hello all, this is a great forum and i was hoping some of you might offer your wealth of knowledge to someone who just cant seem to stick to a style. I started with kung-fu at 19 but then went backpacking and just never went back to it. then i tried Muay Thai 10 years later last year and had a motorcycle accident and never went back after i recovered. now i'm moving to london and am wondering what i can take that will show me enough results quickly so i don't loose patience or my nerve and quit. am looking and some of the bjj schools and londonshootfighters but is there a form that best suits older beginners like me. If it suits i will gladly study it for 10 yrs but i dont want a style that takes years before i can use it in the streets for self-defence.
i'm thinking attend a couple of different schools to get a nice combo like muay thai and bjj or boxing muay thai and jj?

any thoughts. i'm lost. i think i'm stuck in the mtv culture of short attention spans but ally want to learn MMA.

[Hermosa]

I of course am very partial to grappling. And you guys DO indeed have some very good BJJ schools up there now. But man, if you want to kick some ass fast you guys have Neil Adams up there and whoa damn! I'd love to train with that guy. (Judo)

If grappling really isn't your thing. Find some of Geoff Thompsons guys and you'll be BAD in no time!

[EmptyneSs]

how bout western boxing? western boxing is awesome and it can be picked up pretty fast. theres nothin fancy about and u learn tons of skills from it.

[Uber_Tap]

I'm a big fan of western boxing for quick effective skills. I'm also a bjj fan, but there is certainly more time involved in learning the bjj game.

Who is Geoff Thompson? I've seen this name a few times in the last few weeks but I don't know anything about him.

[Tant01]

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Who is Geoff Thompson? I've seen this name a few times in the last few weeks but I don't know anything about him.

That's too bad, he's quite an authority in the industry...

Geoff Thompson.com - Martial artist, teacher and BAFTA winning writer.

Google will give you 477,000 links to look at but you can click this>

http://www.geoffthompson.com/

If you like him you'll love Don Rearic Dot com...

[Uber_Tap]

I checked out the web site, and I do remember coming across it before but it doesn't really provide any info on him personally. Can someone give me some info, I very curious to find out more? I've only seen positive things written about him, and on this forum that's saying something.

[nk_london]

MA for the impatient

Is bjj something that you can pick up in 6mo-1yr. i know it takes yrs to become an expert but can one feel confident enough to use it after a year?

[Uber_Tap]

Yes and no. You will have learned a lot of submissions in a year, but the problem is you won't have a complete appreciation of the big picture. I have only about a year in bjj myself and against people with similiar experience levels I do pretty well. The problem is the more advanced students. They can move from position to position and from submision attempt to submission attempt. You will know a few combinations in a year, but guys with three or four years of experience are thinking 5 moves ahead. They will go for holds that when you try to defend will open you up to something else. It seems like the guys with 3+ years are in another world compared to the rest of us, so I think you would need at least that amount of time to consider yourself proficient.

You don't need that much time to be able to defend yourself I don't think, but to proficient I believe you do. There are a lot of folks on here that have much more bjj experience than I, so I'm sure others will be able to give you a clearer picture of the time it will take you to become skilled at the art.

[GeorgeK]

Hey. Check out this site. In my opinion the Straight Blast Gym organization is one of the best to study MMA and self-defense.

https://www.straightblastgym.com

and specifically the UK loications:

http://www.straightblastgym.com/page.asp?section=uk&parent=Locations&session=

Good luck!

[greenfrog]

Impatient? Then dont bother with MA, no MA is gonna make you great in 6 mo to 1 year if you have no patience or dedication to continue practising!

[Ahoym8e]

Muay Thai. Just ask "Muay Thai Fighter" on this board...

Ok, so that was sorta toungue in cheek. But really, MT is simple and effective if it's stiking-fighting skills you want...

Of course Geoff Thompson's and the Straight Blast guys are damn good too.

[Tant01]

There are many alternatives available (for a price) that can give you the confidence you seek. Google RMCAT or Bullet Man, my "E" buddy Peyton Quinn or his pal Bill Kipp. Adrenal response training is the cutting edge, so to speak. That's only the cream of the crop,(IMHO) they have peers across the country doing similar things.

And I'm sure they have friends across the pond too.

[Tom Yum]

There are many alternatives available (for a price) that can give you the confidence you seek. Google RMCAT or Bullet Man, my "E" buddy Peyton Quinn or his pal Bill Kipp. Adrenal response training is the cutting edge, so to speak. That's only the cream of the crop,(IMHO) they have peers across the country doing similar things.

And I'm sure they have friends across the pond too.

Peyton Quinn, he's the author of a book called pool cues, knives and billy clubs or something like that? Also a bouncers guide to barroom brawling. His books on Paladin are good.

[Tant01]

He's written a few books, yeah. It's hard to beat those "old school" guys, eh? He's got a new book out now, more of a "self-help" work in his words. The title is FREEDOM FROM FEAR. And, it's getting some good reviews.