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  • #16
    Originally posted by NYCMonkey
    My point was just that in ORDER to escape such an ordeal (on the ground with multiples) you need to resort to protective offense.
    Maybe you do, but it looks like RMAX doesnt

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    • #17
      Originally posted by CKD
      The drill has a natural progression.For a beginner you start a bit slower and softer just to get a feel for what it like and to keep yourself aware. Then the more advanced you are you build up the contact speed until its full power. But in those clips that were posted it looks like Sonnon was giving instruction and showing the importance of awareness.
      Yes, that's exactly what Scott wrote here -Softwork to Hardwork.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by James Lee
        Yes, that's exactly what Scott wrote here -Softwork to Hardwork.
        His progression seems reasonable. It looks much like how SBG works.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by CKD
          The drill has a natural progression.For a beginner you start a bit slower and softer just to get a feel for what it like and to keep yourself aware. Then the more advanced you are you build up the contact speed until its full power. But in those clips that were posted it looks like Sonnon was giving instruction and showing the importance of awareness.
          I was at the Softwork seminar, watched this demo in person, then duplicated it myself. (though somewhat less impressively)

          The person quoted above is on the right track. There was a progression to the drills we did, and grappling multiple opponents was just one of them... after we worked drills against single opponents.

          For this particular drill, no strikes or submissions were employed, nor was anyone going "hard". The emphasis was on relaxing and using movement and body positioning. If you could stay relaxed even against multiple opponents, it was MUCH easier to remain mobile and able to react spontaneously to counter your opponents' attempts to pin you. If you tensed up much, you were soon crushed under/between 3 bodies.

          From my own 11 years of grappling, most people run into problems as soon as they stiffen up against an opponent. By training to remain relaxed and mobile, you can use your techniques and strategies more effectively and not gas out so easily. Watch Abu Dhabi or any of the top technical grapplers, and you know what I mean.

          With practice, I would eventually have my training partner(s) slowly crank up the intensity, start incorporating submissions, and maybe even strikes. This is *part* of Scott's method of moving up the pyramid to the point that Softwork and Hardwork merge. I'm oversimplifying, but I hope you get the point.

          Scott doesn't claim to be a magician nor unbeatable... and his results were duplicated by *nearly* everyone present, if not as smoothly. That's the other point: it doesn't have to take years of practice to make major improvements in your effectiveness. It just the willingness to go a bit deeper into your current practice and confront your fears to beat down that "inner pansy".

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          • #20
            Originally posted by James Lee
            Maybe you do, but it looks like RMAX doesnt
            I think through the rest of the posts we deduced that it was a drill so I was mistaken as to what he was showing exactly. As for progressive drilling and training, I agree with that as well, just didn't know what it was.

            LOL at RMax not needing to. If you asked him to demo a FULL OUT, no consent escape form the ground in that exact situation I guarantee he'd be using striking/grappling offensive tools. That doesn't detract from him or his ability at all in anyway...he's not Superman, we're all human.

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            • #21
              No magic involved. It just looks and feels like there is.

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              • #22
                It's not logical. 1 vs 3? even if he did win, look at the dorks he's going up against... bwhahaha...

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                • #23
                  Crazy Joe?

                  WHHHAAAAASAAAAAAPPP!

                  HaHa, where you been man?

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                  • #24
                    What up kid!... just been here and there...

                    Training.. parties, girls the same ol shit... good to see you still here.

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                    • #25
                      A couple of those "dorks" were SBGi fighters, a few BJJ grapplers and one was a judo champion.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by James Lee
                        A couple of those "dorks" were SBGi fighters, a few BJJ grapplers and one was a judo champion.

                        who?


                        Oh! The dorks in those 'posed' photos! I see.

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                        • #27
                          Join Scott's forum and you can talk directly to them. By the way, all of those photos were LIVE and improvised, nothing posed or choreographed about them.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by James Lee
                            By the way, all of those photos were LIVE and improvised, nothing posed or choreographed about them.

                            Yeah, I don't think so.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by jubaji
                              Yeah, I don't think so.
                              Think what you like, but I was there.

                              None of the action pics were posed.

                              As for "dorks"... you obviously have no clue. Go back to sleep.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JasonE
                                Think what you like, but I was there.

                                None of the action pics were posed.

                                As for "dorks"... you obviously have no clue. Go back to sleep.
                                I'll give you a choice. They were either posed, or those guys really are dorks. Take your pick.

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