Defendo

[koto_ryu]

P.P.S. GEOFF THOMPSON IS A GOOD SOURCE. GET HIS VIDEOS. VERY GOOD.

I actually think Geoff is more full of shit than Defendo, but hey, thats me

[BoarSpear]

"Arm bars tsk tsk" ??

Well since no one else picked up the ball.

Defendo is supposedly based on Defendu, while jj and combat judo do employ occasional finger locks, its not a major component.

That being said defendo is still a good system.

The finger locks and standing arm locks are what bother me most about defendo, these were far less common in defendu. A finger lock, no matter how good will not stop a man intent on killing you. Defendu was about soldiers, commandos in particular...

both systems are an excellent base to build skills upon though.

i grew up practicing defendu i was taught any time you used the time it took to execute a technique, you had better use one that didnt have a more lethal counter. Finger locks fail that test every time.

[Nutz]

I asked about this exact topic about a year ago. We had a good exchange of information, despite how brief it was.

[BoarSpear]

I asked about this exact topic about a year ago. We had a good exchange of information, despite how brief it was.

yeah but you guys talked about double Tapping...not chin jab and trip

so did you pick anything up in the last year since you discussed it with Tant01?
any new insights?

[Nutz]

In a nutshell, in a life and death altercation pure brutality and quickness is what counts. Techniques go out the window for the more part so you need to keep things as simple as humanly possible. Above all else, its better to have 5 moves you can do all the time than 1000 moves you can only to 75% of the time.

Something most folks don't train to a great deal is reaction time in real-world environments. How often does your instructor jump out from a corner brandishing a pipe while you're at a streetside cafe? Its an extreme example, but it illustrates the oddities people experience in life. That fight-or-flight response can be honed and that's what people often forget to train (or do train, but not effecively as they should). That's just what I've noticed with the folks I've trained with over the last year or so.

[BoarSpear]

How often does your instructor jump out from a corner brandishing a pipe while you're at a streetside cafe?

HEHEHE funny you should ask that, in this case im one of the "nutjob" instructors who actually does stuff like that i also encourage my students to do the same to each other and me. Not in situations where civilians see anything though slipping up behind (or trying anyway) a classmate with a rubber knife in a crowd is always fun, the trick is doing it without the crowd noticing.

if you do this stuff often enough you will find out you cant sneak up on each other anymore

[BoarSpear]

Speakin of defendu, anyone familiar with Chicago Willy? or know where to find ANY of his material?

[Tant01]

Know WHY?

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Something most folks don't train to a great deal is reaction time in real-world environments. How often does your instructor jump out from a corner brandishing a pipe while you're at a streetside cafe? Its an extreme example, but it illustrates the oddities people experience in life. ......
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I was scared to death of my instructor. I really never knew (for sure) if he was actually going to kill me or NOT! I eventually hurt two of his Marine students seriously enough to be "investigated" and the final "test" ended with the instructor's jaw surgically wired to keep the broken parts from moving around inside... A bit hard core for sure but my own list of injuries took several weeks to heal too. I was a hurting unit! Try fighting with broken ribs or sprained neck... oh yeah!!! Adrenal response is a comfortable mistress...I love the warmflooding feeling I get from my head down to my toes! It's just amazing to realize how much pain you can tolerate untill the adrenalin wears off.

[Nutz]

It's just amazing to realize how much pain you can tolerate untill the adrenalin wears off.

Its importate that we touch on this point, because the same can go for your opponenet. Drugs can have the same affect--you never know what the person is on. In my experience, true crazies are the worst. They can have superhuman strength and nothing seems to hurt them. Forget autonomous responses, they're truly dangerous in every regard. Note: PCP can bring out the same characteristics.