Bart Vale

[CKD]

Has anyone trained under this guy or bought his videotapes? I have heard some opinions about him and he claims that the pro wrestling matches he fought were real when instead they were "stiffs".

[JohnnyS]

I know he fought Rigan Machado at Rigan's school in the early 1990's. Bob Wall brought him in, Rigan thught it was just grappling and Bart Vale threw a kick and some punches. Rigan took him down, armbarred Bart and told Bart to tap. Bart refused and ended up with a broken arm.

[THE ETERNAL VOW]

I heard the same Machado story stated above. Doesnt seem to be the greatest fighter either. I havent seen the tapes but they are a shootfighting series and they sound kind of weak. I am ashamed to have the same last name as him. Are we related :confused.