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    What does BJJ shows you besides takedowns and submission?

  • #2
    Escapes from inferior positions, takedown counters and limb destructions. Chokes, sweeps, reaps, counters to holds, headlocks, wrist locks and how to use clothing as a weapon...???

    The essence of Ju?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Tant01
      Escapes from inferior positions, takedown counters and limb destructions. Chokes, sweeps, reaps, counters to holds, headlocks, wrist locks and how to use clothing as a weapon...???

      The essence of Ju?
      From what I have seen it teaches you more how to get into those positions than to get out of them.......

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      • #4
        A little BJJ envy I see...

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        • #5
          "What does BJJ shows you besides takedowns and submission?"

          Oh really not that much, other than a proven and effective fighting system (notice I didn't say complete you whiny b_tches) that offers complete domination and/or destruction of your opponent while minimizing damage to you. It also offers you a great fighting base to add/integrate/complement with striking.

          Let the Playa Hatin' begin!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ronson
            A little BJJ envy I see...
            I don't think so

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            • #7
              To go #2 before training.

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              • #8
                "In Kenpo there should be no Second Strike"

                But what happens when one strike isn't enough or you're not able to even get the first strike off and land? I know, what a stupid question! That would never happen to you or a "real" Kenpo master. Boy, Mike Tyson in his day,
                Mirko Cro Cop, and Wanderlei Silva must look silly throwing more than one strike before knocking someone out. How highly ineffective.

                "From what I have seen it teaches you more how to get into those positions than to get out of them......."

                That's your problem. You've "seen" more than you've done. Take the blinders off and quit being so defensive and threatened.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ronson
                  "In Kenpo there should be no Second Strike"

                  But what happens when one strike isn't enough or you're not able to even get the first strike off and land? I know, what a stupid question! That would never happen to you or a "real" Kenpo master. Boy, Mike Tyson in his day,
                  Mirko Cro Cop, and Wanderlei Silva must look silly throwing more than one strike before knocking someone out. How highly ineffective.

                  "From what I have seen it teaches you more how to get into those positions than to get out of them......."

                  That's your problem. You've "seen" more than you've done. Take the blinders off and quit being so defensive and threatened.
                  I agree with that.
                  There is no one strike miracle unlike some people wishes!
                  It is better to train yourselves to be in the hardest positions in order to win in a real fight.
                  Look at the Bob Sapp vrs Noguerira Minautoro from the Brazilian Top Team in
                  a Pride NHB fight.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Warrior189
                    What does BJJ shows you besides takedowns and submission?
                    actually BJJ is not the best for takedowns.
                    most quality BJJ fighters crosstrain in order to compensate for the lack of stand up skills.
                    BJJ players will do what they are the best at: just take the fight to the ground and submit.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tant01
                      Escapes from inferior positions, takedown counters and limb destructions. Chokes, sweeps, reaps, counters to holds, headlocks, wrist locks and how to use clothing as a weapon...???

                      The essence of Ju?
                      To use the clothing like the gi/kimono is what make the so happy about BJJ!
                      BJJ players can and will at will use their own/opponent clothing to tie-up/strangle his opponent any time/any where!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wardancer
                        To use the clothing like the gi/kimono is what make the so happy about BJJ!
                        BJJ players can and will at will use their own/opponent clothing to tie-up/strangle his opponent any time/any where!


                        To be honest I learned the shimewaza in Judo but I like the "submission from any position" attitude! The BJJ is good Newaza.

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                        • #13
                          What BJJ will teach you

                          In addition to what has already been said:

                          You will develop your sensitivity - the ability to feel your opponent's weight and shifts in balance.

                          You will become aware of your own base and balance in prone, kneeling, and standing positions, in an environment where your opponent is actively trying to disrupt it.

                          You will become familiar not only with chokes and joint-locks, but more importantly with the setting up of chokes and joint-locks, and what kind of mistakes make you vulnerable to chokes and joint-locks. So many people who are new to BJJ simply have no awareness of what actions are safe and which will get you swept/choked/arm-barred.

                          You will become familiar with the range/phase of ground grappling. If you are taken to the ground and you are not familiar with ground grappling, you will waste a lot of energy and tire yourself out very quickly. The ground is certainly not the best place to be, but if your opponent is determined to keep you there, you will have a difficult time getting back to a standing position if you have no idea what you are doing. If you want to use dirty tactics, YOU MUST HAVE AN IDEA OF THE BEST TIMES AND POSITIONS TO USE THEM! Attempt a bite or an eye-gouge in the wrong position and you will remain in an inferior position with an extremely pissed off individual on top of you. To be an effective anti-grappler, YOU MUST BE A GRAPPLER YOURSELF!!

                          Mr. Brewer probably has a good idea where I got most of this from

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by academian
                            From what I have seen it teaches you more how to get into those positions than to get out of them.......
                            Couldn't be further from the truth. Any good instructor will spend a good amount of times showing escapes from all submissions and positions. In fact, in my short time of training so far, I have spent more time learning how to deal with inferior positions than being in superior positions.

                            You can't attack well if you can't defend first.

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