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I will. Its not very hard to grab your keys and put them in your hand. Geez.
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Not nearly as bad as a good shot to the face would, without keys.Originally posted by Andrew WA
Anyway, why are you RANDOMLY walking up to SOMEONE and jamming them in the rib with keys? I mean, "randomly" means they didn't anything to you, right? So you would just walk around, and poke people in the ribcage with your keys, for no reason? Are you serious?
Is that in anyway useful for self defense?
Makes no sense.Comment
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You might want to try it on some kind of a target, like an old phone book or something before you try it on humansOriginally posted by Andrew WAComment
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Actually when you sense you are being followed or see some kind of weird person up ahead while you are walking then that is a good time to position your keys. Its not like you do it when your attacked and blindsided. But if a guy is in your face and your prepared you can pull the key out.It's harder than you might think. Especially if you're panicked, caught off guard, and filling one ear with a cell phone. The other danger is that you're losing all manner of fine motor skills, like those required to lace keys individually through one's fingers or even dig them out of a pocket without dropping them. That doesn't even address what happens if you drop them in the fray. Now the bad guy has keys to your car, your home, and anything else you used to have access to. I just think the key thing is a bad idea. Carry pepper spray if you need an intermediate weapon to distract. Pulling it out and spraying someone is less intricate than the key idea, and while I'd never count on it doing the job all by itself, it can allow you plenty of time to run away.
And yes randomly doing it to someone means walking up to them and them unsuspecting you. Then you jam it in their rib cage. You do this to people who you know are trouble and are following you or bothering your friends or something. You can act afraid and them BAM!
Plus you dont have to do a mega strike or anything. You dont have to press to hard to hurt someone and hit their pressure point. Its not very difficult!!
If I am attacked without knowing it im not going to waste time grabbing keys! But im saying if your in a scarey area or in a parking lot walk with the keys like that or just ONE key. Using ONE key is better. Its just a tool you have as your option.Comment
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Lousy, lousy, LOUSY advice.Originally posted by Andrew WAComment
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I've often wondered??
I wonder how many of these little self defense tips would dry up and disappear if people started getting sued for giving bad advise.Comment
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You would have to be mentaly retarded if you dont have the motor skills to grab your keys out of your pocket and jam them at someone.
I dont understand how people can be so clueless as to deny a weapon and keep stating that its only use I claimed I would do is in the middle of a brawl. SHyeaa like I would stop in the middle of a fight and grab my keys just to position them right. Dont be so stupid.
Jaming an object in someones eye socket it a lot more effective then using your finger. Metal vs flesh...
The key is an option not the only way...I wouldnt plan it out anyway. Its justs omething you can use.
Picking up random objects in a fight is smart as well. Use anything to your advantage.
In the pizza fight obvious the white guy was not prepared and things escalated to fast. plus it wouldnt have done any good to use a key. Anyway just forget it...you guys are just too genious for me...Comment
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dude, are u serious? you're making absolutely no sense whatsoever...just say your sorry and drop it...Originally posted by Andrew WAComment
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your the ones not making sense. Following your logic is like saying brass knuckles are inneffective or even as bad as a knife is inneffective.
Dumb...
Dont use sharp objects to jam into somoenes body! Its ineffective and will never work! Its better to never ever use a weapon in a self defense situation!!!
Shyeaaa!!Comment
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Originally posted by Mike Brewer
I like your systematic methodology but did you also play with the whole key ring? I REALLY like the way you train. It remindes me of my own. Ahh, the key thing. A key ring with several keys on it or even a few keys on a few key rings chained together with a small lanyard (PARACORD) or a (STRONG) keychain makes a decent flail and garote. But, don't take my word for it!
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Originally posted by Mike BrewerI don't train that way any more, tant. It is way too hard on the body, and somewhere along the line I grew at least part of a brain.
I have seen and used the "keys as a flail" idea. It was originally suggested to me by none other than Guro Dan Inosanto, so of course I tried it. I like it ..........
Respectfully,
Mike Brewer
Darn that guy, giving all my secrets away....
I'll second the tried and true approach. Not to burn on anyone or any idea because frankly if I had my key in my hand as he suggests, I doubt I'd hesitate to "key" a cheek or forhead with it knowing full well it will likely enrage the guy.
Hell, if I'm gonna get whupped or killed might as well give him something to remember me!
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That was a very scary video. The situation itself was tense, no way I would have done any better, but the by-standers...that's the scariest part. No one even tried to call the cops while it was happening or anything. The whole thing took over two minutes and half of the people refused to even look at what was happening. I know exactly how they felt. They felt like if they got involved in ANY way it could be them getting attacked next. It wasn't even the threat of real danger stopping them from helping, but the thought of imagined danger.
I'd like to think that in that situation I'd at least be able to say something, distract the guy, jump over the counter, run out the back. SOMETHING.
BTW, very interesting stories Mike!Comment
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