striking the neck and throat

[jubaji]

You are just to proud to admit it because you want to believe BJJ is the end all to every MA in the world and no one can ever defeat you if you train in it. You are the one with the false hope.!

I don't practice BJJ

[jubaji]

How about taking a huge grab and rip at your balls while you try to wrestle around your oponent? You dont be doing so well after that!

Once again you expose yourself as an unexperienced 'theory-boy' with nonsense like this. Why don't you go ahead and give that a try with an actual grappler sometime? I know what will happen and you might benefit from a painful dose of reality.

[EmptyneSs]

[EmptyneSs]

jumanji is a troll. and a douche.

i dont think a skilled boxer or kickboxer would have a hard time hitting someone in the throat if he wanted to. obviously its not practical if u are 5'8 and your opponent is like 6'3 or just rediculously taller . personally when i box or spar with bigger guys in mt i dont even go for their heads unless i got a real good oppertunity because their ribs, stomach and legs are just way closer and easier to get to and are opened up to counters when they attack. however, if given the oppertunity, a strike to his throat or neck would probobly be pretty damn effective, which is what we were talking about.

[Garland]

Ai-ya, this again. Yes, its all wonderful and irrelevant. Its the false hope of the weak and unskilled.

Say what you will. Here, lets do a little exercise...reach your right hand up and around your throat...not all of it, find the larnyx...you feel the hyoid bone, right...okay, now just push your fingers in a little deeper and try and see if you can begin to wrap around the back of your trachea. Imagine somebody with a strong hand...not horribly strong, but strong enough to break two walnuts in his hand...now imagine that amount of force with back pressure in an explosive and powerful tearing out.

This is how many animals kill. Tearing and ripping out the throat. You will aspirate on your own blood...and then die, after which your soul (assuming that we have souls) will be hurled into either oblivion, or hell, whichever is worse...because, hey, don't kid yourself, we ain't saints, right jubaji?...
I couldn't think of a more fitting way for ME to go...absolutely GLORIOUS.
think about the background music, some deep overture, maybe Mozart's requim...

You like Yukio Mishima, Jubaji???
One of my favorite authors....now there was a man, a true, honest to God, MAN!

[Garland]

Once again you expose yourself as an unexperienced 'theory-boy' with nonsense like this. Why don't you go ahead and give that a try with an actual grappler sometime? I know what will happen and you might benefit from a painful dose of reality.

I don't care...Jubaji...your nay-saying is getting old.
In a life or death situation...I will do whatever I can in order to be the one breathing at the end...
I will not jab their eyes like a pussy, I will tear them from their sockets or leave them jammed deep within their skulls.
I will not pat and pull at their balls, I will tear them from their body if I can muster the leaverage, and if not, I will crush them like eggs.
The same goes for the throat...it is soft, it contains mechanisms vital to the other person, and so I would, if I truly needed to, tear their throat out...I wouldn't bother choking them out, nor would I try messing with a complicated arm lock.

Life or death situation...they can break my arms, I would simply gnaw them to death.
This is because...in my heart, jubaji, I am a fighter...and I am more of a lover than a fighter. It is my love for those in my life that would not ALLOW me to die so easily. I would kill, or I would fail, but I would at least die trying everything within my power to have the other person accompany me straight to hell...and I would die smiling.

[EmptyneSs]

I don't care...Jubaji...your nay-saying is getting old.
In a life or death situation...I will do whatever I can in order to be the one breathing at the end...
I will not jab their eyes like a pussy, I will tear them from their sockets or leave them jammed deep within their skulls.
I will not pat and pull at their balls, I will tear them from their body if I can muster the leaverage, and if not, I will crush them like eggs.
The same goes for the throat...it is soft, it contains mechanisms vital to the other person, and so I would, if I truly needed to, tear their throat out...I wouldn't bother choking them out, nor would I try messing with a complicated arm lock.

Life or death situation...they can break my arms, I would simply gnaw them to death.
This is because...in my heart, jubaji, I am a fighter...and I am more of a lover than a fighter. It is my love for those in my life that would not ALLOW me to die so easily. I would kill, or I would fail, but I would at least die trying everything within my power to have the other person accompany me straight to hell...and I would die smiling.

sounds like u trying to hard

[Garland]

Does it?....
What am I trying to sound like?
I'm dead serious.
If I had to kill somebody to protect myself and my loved ones, I would do so, even if it cost me my own life.
It is obligatory, is it not?
Who wouldn't?

[jubaji]

Say what you will.

OK:

Its the false hope of the weak and unskilled.

[jubaji]

fantasy land

I don't care...Jubaji...your nay-saying is getting old.
In a life or death situation...I will do whatever I can in order to be the one breathing at the end... .

And "whatever I can" would magically change just because you really, really want it to?

I will not jab their eyes like a pussy, I will tear them from their sockets or leave them jammed deep within their skulls..

Right. If you could not outbox someone you could 'will' yourself to suddenly gain the skill to hit a small, moving area before he knocks the shit out of you.

I will not pat and pull at their balls, I will tear them from their body if I can muster the leaverage, and if not, I will crush them like eggs..

Sure, just because you imagine a desperate, dramatic scene you would suddenly gain the skill to establish positional dominance such that you could grab at his sack while preventing him from breaking your arm/leg/etc or pounding your head through the ground.

so I would, if I truly needed to, tear their throat out...I wouldn't bother choking them out, nor would I try messing with a complicated arm lock..

"Wouldn't bother" is funny. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.

Life or death situation...they can break my arms, I would simply gnaw them to death.

Yes, of course you would dear.

This is because...in my heart, jubaji, I am a fighter...and I am more of a lover than a fighter. It is my love for those in my life that would not ALLOW me to die so easily. I would kill, or I would fail, but I would at least die trying everything within my power to have the other person accompany me straight to hell...and I would die smiling.

You are drunk. Go sleep it off.

[Tom Yum]

Right. If you could not outbox someone you could 'will' yourself to suddenly gain the skill to hit a small, moving area before he knocks the shit out of you.

Bingo.

The average person doesn't know how to box, so it might be easier but an athletic or big, violent person will run right over you (skill or not) if you just get in there way without any mobility, timing or defense.

[Garland]

I can grapple to an extent, I may not be the best, but I can apply a choke or a submission and fight for positioning...I have had some of the formal training, I am also an amatuer thai kickboxer, despite not having had a bout in about a year...but I am VERY confident that I can hold my own standing up.
I have had some of the best training anyone can hope for, and I am very blessed in that fact...but when worst comes to worst...all of you should know, that in a real, REAL fight...there are no rules, and no such thing as a FAIR fight. If somebody had you almost in an arm bar on the street, and they had one of their legs strung across your mouth, wouldn't you take a chunk out of their calf while trying to turn your arm out of it, thumb down, or lift them and try to bash them against the concrete until they let go??? (not turning over, obviously, because it would put you in a worse position).
Or if they were holding you in mount position with their head close to yours...wouldn't you try the Tyson diet BEFORE working for a triangle, or an armlock, or whatever you could do???
If somebody was trying to punch at you and you could trap their arms down and sun gaab their eyes, headbutt and knee, and then stomp them, you would...or if you could grab their throat and crush...you would.

Just as you would try and toss them into or grind them into any sharp edges you could find or curb check them as you get up...

[Garland]

And "whatever I can" would magically change just because you really, really want it to?



Right. If you could not outbox someone you could 'will' yourself to suddenly gain the skill to hit a small, moving area before he knocks the shit out of you.



Sure, just because you imagine a desperate, dramatic scene you would suddenly gain the skill to establish positional dominance such that you could grab at his sack while preventing him from breaking your arm/leg/etc or pounding your head through the ground.



"Wouldn't bother" is funny. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.



Yes, of course you would dear.



You are drunk. Go sleep it off.

I wouldn't try to hit the throat with my hand until they got into trapping range....And I wouldn't try to box with them...I would rally. I would punch them until I saw an opening, or round kick them in the crook of their knee...or whatever opening I could see, I would take. But if I managed to see the throat open, I would take it and end the fight there.

[jubaji]

but when worst comes to worst...all of you should know, that in a real, REAL fight...there are no rules, and no such thing as a FAIR fight. ...

LOL

I love how EVERYBODY says things like "No, I mean in a REAL fight. No, I mean a REALLY, REALLY, REAL fight...blah,blah,blah" like they have some secret insight that no one else has. "You people need to understand that in a REALLY, REALLY, REAL, REAL, REEEEEAAAAALLLLLL fight that no matter what disadvantage I have in terms of size, speed, strength, or skill that I will win because I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, want to. So I'll put my finger in his eye and massage his nuts and give him the Austin Powers Judo Chop to the throat". Well, isn't that special?

[Andrew WA]

Once again you expose yourself as an unexperienced 'theory-boy' with nonsense like this. Why don't you go ahead and give that a try with an actual grappler sometime? I know what will happen and you might benefit from a painful dose of reality.

I think you need to take your own advice, because you are just the typical ignorant arrogant BJJ jackass. Try sparring your own kind and let there be throat strikes and pinching and pressure points and anything else like scratching and bitting and you tell me if it doesnt work.