AT: JUDO GUY re: garcie judo invasion

[jkd-boxing]

u have said before on this forum that the guy rickson beats in the "gracie judo invasion video" easily was a national champ in the 80s

what was his name and his dojo?

thanks

if anyone else knows this info i appreciate it

[bobby_steeles]

where does everybody get copies of this tape? it wasn't ever for sale, was it?

[judo guy]

hi jkd-boxing,

The judoka was Steven Seck. He was a national champion in the late 70's and early 80's.

It looks like it was filmed at the Buddhist Church on Vignes.

Why do you ask?

[Ryu (non-working password]

BJJ sure has had such a strong influence.
Judo Guy do you think that most judoka seriously overlook newaza ability?

The Kimura's of the world seem to be rare.


Ryu

[judo guy]

Hi Ryu,

I don't think that overlooking is the proper word. Certainly, newaza isn't nearly as important as tachiwaza in judo. I think the proper balance for tournament success would be 80/20 or 75/25.

You can become a world champion in judo without ever dedicating much time to newaza. The reverse is not true. Any judoka who wants to wear Olympic or World gold has to put most of his time and effort into tachiwaza.

Of course there are going to be judoka who are exceptional in newaza. But as a rule, the BJJ athletes will always be superior to the judoka athletes in newaza. Unless the rules of judo change, which isn't very likely.

[SweepEm]

For the Judo ilgnorants here, what's newaza and tachiwaza?

How about Waza Up?

I assume that one is mat work and the other is stand up?

Enlighten us.

[judo guy]

Hi (arregato) Sweep,

Tachiwaza is standing and Newaza is ground.

[SweepEm]

My turn to say Arrigato Judo Dude.

Domo goshinsetsu ni.

[judo guy]

LOL, hope I get this right.

Do itashi mashi te

[EJ]

?Donde esta el bano?

[Ryu (non-working password]

Judo,
you got it right

Doo itashimashite

[jkd-boxing]

thanks judo guy...your ability to appreciate the strengths of the 2 arts realisticly is refreshing

there is a debate on the UG that brought this up

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forum/thread.cfm?thread_id=124942&messages=48&forum_id=16

[judo guy]

thanks for the link. I posted some thoughts on that thread.

Ryu,

Thanks. I was trying to spell it phonetically. I guess I got most of it right. My Japanese vocabulary is pretty limited!

[Edited by judo guy on 12-27-2000 at 09:35 PM]

[Ryu (non-working password]

There's a strong mix of articulate posters there, and complete bafoons. How many people are in the Underground exactly? Does anyone know a rough estimate?

[Robin Hood]

They say they got 50,000 members but this all bull$hit. I estimate they have between 300-500 members. The 50,000 just helps them ask more money for advertising. I noticed the merry christmas thread that asked for all members to reply only has under 200 replies. Does this mean the other 49,800 members are on holidays? I dont think so. To say they got 50,000 members is misleading.