Simple BJJ self-defense for street application

[Ryu (non-working password]

I have been training and drilling basics harder than I ever have before. I have been staying up to the wee hours of the night, using friends to help, etc.

I wanted your opinions on this.

I am focusing on extremely strong basics for use in the street. We all have heard that no one wants to lay on their back in the street, etc. But it is a fact that a lot of fights go there. A lot of mine have.

I am training sequences of moves, and am drilling them with sparring partners, dummies, etc.
From punching range, if you clinch and go to the ground here is what I think is simply basic, but the most effective for street application of grappling (big boast I know, I'm nothing special )
Anyway slam the guy hard on the ground, and ALWAYS fight to be on top. Before you do anything (people usually grab your neck and crank it like it should come off) control the man on the bottom with side control using your legs to drive him down like a wrestler, and your hands guarding his hips and under his neck. The main goal is to get to mount. So don't spend time G&Ping from cross mount too much (unless you can do extreme damage quickly) and place your knee into his stomach. Get into mount, and rain your punches down.

This is so basic it is nearly stupid to explain it here, but I am feeling much more tight with my mastery of the basics. And since I feel I am very relatively strong, I have confidence my strikes can do damage from this position. I believe (granted if knives and multiple opponents are not involved...zzzz) that this is really the most realistic application of BJJ for the street.

Anyone agree or disagree?
I welcome your comments.

Ryu

[Bau13]

agreed...the mount is where you want to be..

I wouldn't even worry about getting into mount with some opponents...most people wont even know how to put you in their guard..so you'd end up in mount anyways.if you just slammed someone on their back and started raining heavy strikes at them..(knowing you..probably HKE?)
that person is not gonna know what to do...just cover up..or give you their back...
even a "trained" person might panic...

just be careful of eye gouges and things like that...

[Oldskulbus]

sounds good


But what if you can't go to the ground? What if there are many foes and going to the ground would be a bad idea. You should keep in mind positioning and strategies for a quick escape and/or a quick effective offense.
Have a couple of your friends just try to take you to the ground while you try to avoid them using your ju-jitsu. It is good practice and will give you a grasp of how difficult it is to fight multiple opponents

[Maxximus]

It's all about the flying armbar and the butt scoot

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

Elbows from the mount sound good to me! I also think with a MUCH larger opponent, your going to have to be ready to "swim" under all his buckling if you wan to stay on.

[Tony10]

In the street? Dude, I'd avoid going down to the ground with ANYBODY in the street.

Drop 'em & ditch 'em. Don't mount him after he's down--stomp him! Then get a move on it.

[Ryu (non-working password]

There was a guy in the SuperBrawls who did just that. Took them down and stomped them. He wasn't a pretty fighter at all, but was the champ for a while and beat striker and grappler alike. He got KOed twice, however, by Danny boy smith.

Anyone remember his name?

[Tony10]

Don't know.

There was some stompin' going on in the early UFCs and you're right, it isn't pretty. But: your opponent is on the ground taking blows and you can exit at will. That's what I call an optimal position.

If you're fighting some frat boy on campus and want to teach him a lesson, then by all means, Ryu: go Judoka on his ass.

Life or death, though--all I have to say is: these boots are made for stompin'.

BTW, I never leave home without my steel-toed Caterpillars... the Cadillacs of combat shoes...

[Maxximus]

Ryu,

The Superbrawl champion you are referring to is Tae Kwon Do fighter Jay R Palmer. Although Danny Bennett kind of put an early end to that guy's career, he seemed like one hell of a deadly fighter and a very tough brawler while he was around. I still think some of the stuff he did was pretty cool. I remember how he did a running jump kick and knocked his opponent right out of the ring. Yeah, and it was also pretty damn cool how instead of mounting a floored opponent he would just kind of stand over him and stomp his head repeatedly.

[legreap]

stomps are not as effective as you'd like to believe. in sombo training we do stomp drills for 5 minutes or so, many times with multiple attackers. if you remain aware, it is generally easy as all hell to block low kicks and stomps.

[legreap]

disclaimer: blocking real fast kicks really sucks