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    How easy is it to learn the Jujitsu hold called " Manta Leon or Lion Killer?" an someone who is a novice use that hold to kill someone? if not how expert does one have to be to use it to kill someone?

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    Why are you asking?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mswright
      How easy is it to learn the Jujitsu hold called " Manta Leon or Lion Killer?" an someone who is a novice use that hold to kill someone? if not how expert does one have to be to use it to kill someone?

      -thats the "rear naked choke". It is a "blood choke" as it cuts of the blood flow in the arteries of the neck, not a suffication choke, so people go to sleep often without tapping, because they dont realize that theyre going to black out. To kill someone with it, just hold it longer after they pass out, then theres no blood going to the brain. Its very easy to learn, practice is advised greatly, as getting the right set up is important, your arm where it bends at the elbow, should be right inline with the opponents adams apple, then squeeze the sides of the neck....and dont forget to get your hooks in or figure 4 the waist, or the guy will escape or roll. If you dont practice this is training while roling with guys who are trying to get out of it, most likely your not going to have any luck with it in a real fight unless the guy is real skinny and weak and you are way stronger.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by OmaPlata
        If you dont practice this is training while roling with guys who are trying to get out of it, most likely your not going to have any luck with it in a real fight unless the guy is real skinny and weak and you are way stronger.
        It'll work.

        Its hard to escape from; very few arts work on choke escapes, so that's a plus.

        PS - not a good idea to ask how to execute a deadly technique on the web.

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        • #5
          pfffff way easier to kill someone with a screwdriver or something.

          rear naked choke is easy to learn, and easy to apply to novices. but why would you even think of wanting to kill someone? its silly...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mswright
            How easy is it to learn the Jujitsu hold called " Manta Leon or Lion Killer?" an someone who is a novice use that hold to kill someone? if not how expert does one have to be to use it to kill someone?

            I wonder what ever happened to this?????????

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            • #7
              can you grab your bicep? if so your half way there now just wrap that arm behind their head....squeeze and then push your chest foward and thats it.Like someone said before thats a blood choke, if you would "kill" someone with it go directly across the adams apple and then it becomes the short choke and a strangulation where when they pass out they dont wake up...i wouldnt advise that though .

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              • #8
                Run...

                ... before you Fight,
                Fight before you Injure,
                Injure before you Maim,
                Maim before you Kill.

                (Shaolin Temple).



                ! M.A. = The confidence to walk away.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bbbb
                  ... before you Fight,
                  Fight before you Injure,
                  Injure before you Maim,
                  Maim before you Kill.

                  (Shaolin Temple).



                  ! M.A. = The confidence to walk away.
                  Dont pull a gun unless you are gunna shoot
                  Dont shoot unless you are gunna kill

                  (Chai Vang)

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