Originally posted by OmaPlata
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Originally posted by EmptyneSsthrowing shit at someone wont stop them from raping u. if anything they will just use the shit as lube when they bend u over.
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Originally posted by OmaPlataI still think crapping in the hand and throwing it at your attacker is the best defense, just be ready to go poop at all times
They just might be into that.
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Originally posted by OmaPlata
bad times.
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Perhaps, if we were to take the liberty, and make the assumption of how the ancient Spartans might approach this question of sodomy, forcibly or other, then this question might be addressed from the angle of: Can you handle the experience? That is to say, do you break or grow stronger?
Apparently many young ancient Spartan boys (who grew to be men) did.
There are multitudes of active homosexuals or bisexuals around in every sphere of life - no doubt they may be present in contemporary military special operation units, be that SEAL's or SAS. There has been one record I read about of a Hell's Angle member who was actively homosexual (not known by his "brothers" I assume).
Toughness should be assumed in relation to endurance.
Men in prison are men. Just because they are in prison does not mean they can fight any better than anyone else. And some in prison are already martial artists. Adapt, improvise, and overcome; whatever that may mean for each individual. But be sure, murdering someone in prison can increase your time. You murder enough people inside prison and you may never see the outside world again.
"Beating someone up" might give you time in the hole but all-in-all it might work out in the long term to improve your incarceration stay.
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Thankfully I have never been to prison.
But from what I have read and seen on the subject (documentaries), I really don't think there's much you can do alone.
In a prison situation I think the best thing to do would be to keep your head down and not attract attention. You would also need to take zero shit from people right from the word go. It's kind of like school .You know how there's a pecking order, and how image is important? You would need to be seen as strong enough to fight your corner. Then you might be left alone.
I wouldn't try to act tough. I think that this would be seen as provocative, and would draw people to you to test you.
The best thing to do would be to join a gang. I really doubt that fighting ability or martial arts would factor into the equation at all. Bearing in mind prison is a close, confined place with no where to run to, and little space to move.
The absolute best solution would be don't go to prison.
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Originally posted by Bullseye View PostThankfully I have never been to prison.
The best thing to do would be to join a gang. I really doubt that fighting ability or martial arts would factor into the equation at all. Bearing in mind prison is a close, confined place with no where to run to, and little space to move.
On the other hand there are a number of excons that will tell you that it is generally scared young men, often times lacking any real fighting ability, who join gangs *while in prison* (in other words neutrons before they came). From what I've been told prison has its own system of code whether you are in a gang or not and therefore one does not *need* to join a gang per se. My uncle who is a black belt in Karate and knows a few styles, and who is an older man, has been in prison a number of times. I know from more than one source that has been in prison with him, that he was a feared and respected convict. One source said that when he would walk by people would part like the sea, and after he told people he knew my uncle he ceased to have any more trouble. Mind you... my uncle is an extremely muscle bound man and has been in more street fights (and prison fights) than I'll certainly ever have in my life. He's a military veteran and a tradesman (construction) and is not in any gang, nor was he in any gang in prison.
But even prisons can differ from one another just within the U.S. - some are more violent than others and some have more racial tensions than others. So, I suppose it all depends on what prison one enters? [shrug]
The absolute best solution would be don't go to prison.[thumbs up]
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Full Story: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...14/ai_21161641
Excerpts.
The gangs behind bars - prison gangs
Insight on the News, Sept 28, 1998 by Tiffany Danitz
Prison gangs are flourishing across the country. Organized, stealthy and deadly, they are reaching out from their cells to organize and control crime in America's streets.
A 40-year-old gang leader uses his cellular phone to organize an elaborate drug ring and order hits. He commands respect. He wears gang-banger clothing and drapes himself with gold chains. This man is responsible for an entire network of gang members across the state of Illinois. He is Gino Colon, the mastermind behind the Latin Kings. When prosecutors finally caught up with him last August, Colon was indicted for running the Latin Kings' drug-dealing operation from behind prison walls--the state penitentiary in Menard.
After James Byrd Jr. was dragged to death in Jasper last June, rumors spread throughout Texas linking two of the suspected assailants to racially charged prison gangs. While authorities and inmates dismiss these rumors, the Jasper murder occurred only weeks after a San Antonio grand jury indicted 16 members of the Mexican Mafia, one of the state's largest and most lethal prison gangs, for ordering the deaths of five people in San Antonio from within prison walls.
"As they are being released into the community on parole, these people are becoming involved in actions related to prison-gang business. Consequently, it is no longer just a corrections problem--it is also a community problem," Buentello tells Insight.
According to gang investigators and prisoners, the prison gangs were formed for protection against predatory inmates, but racketeering, black markets and racism became factors.
Godwin says Texas should never have outlawed smoking in the prisons, adding cigarettes as trade-goods contraband to the prohibited list. "If you go back to the Civil War era, to Andersonville prison," Godwin says of the prisoner-of-war facility for Union soldiers, "you will see that the first thing that developed was a gang because someone had to control the contraband--that is power. I'm convinced that if you put three people on an island somewhere, two would clique up and become predatory against the other at some point."
But protection remains an important factor. When a new inmate enters the prison system he is challenged to a fight, according to a Texas state-pen prisoner. The outcome determines who can fight, who will be extorted for protection money and who will become a servant to other prisoners. Those who can't join a gang or afford to spend $5 a week in commissary items for protection are destined to be servants. Godwin explains: "The environment is set up so that when you put that many people with antisocial behavior and criminal history together, someone is going to be the predator and someone the prey, and that is reality."
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Here's an interesting documentary on the AB in the U.S. prison system (National Geographic show): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5nbULUXroo
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Hi Knuckles,
Regarding your uncle, were people afraid of him in part because of his martial arts background? Or was it incidental to the other factors that you mentioned?
I can't imagine cons neing afraid of someone just because they are known to do martial arts ,but then, as I said, I've never been to prison. Hope to keep it that way as well!
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