How would TKD do in a NHB fight?

[tkd_person89]

How a TKD do in a NHB fight against other stylists?

I haven't seen many TKD, kung fu, or kempo guys and only a few karate guys.

Everyone seems to (in terms of standup) do Muay Thai or Kickboxing. But I cannot believe or agree that traditional martial arts are useless just because of this fact.

But i'm just wondering since peopel claim TKD is weak. Is it really weak? How does it compare to other standup styles? Opinoins please

And let's not let this one develop into a flame war people

[Hardball]

How a TKD do in a NHB fight against other stylists?

I haven't seen many TKD, kung fu, or kempo guys and only a few karate guys.

Everyone seems to (in terms of standup) do Muay Thai or Kickboxing. But I cannot believe or agree that traditional martial arts are useless just because of this fact.

But i'm just wondering since peopel claim TKD is weak. Is it really weak? How does it compare to other standup styles? Opinoins please

And let's not let this one develop into a flame war people

See the early UFC tape, I believe it was before UFC 5. Kimo fought Royce Gracie and gave Royce hell. If fact Kimo probably would Have won had he not worn a ponytail in the ring. Royce grabbed hold of the ponytale and used it to a great advantage. Kimo was a TKD stylist. After that fight Kimo was never seen wearing a ponytail in the ring again.

[JkD187]

www.bullshido.com go to downloads and see for yourself.P.s the answer is NO.

[vincechoo]

wasn't metzger a TKD guy before he swtiched and joined the Lion's Den back in the day?

[NHBMARK1]

First off,
I don't believe Kimo was truly a TKD man.
Watch the fight, I think it was a swerve.
How many kicks did he throw?
And since his fight with Royce he now has earned a black belt in BJJ under Joe Moreira I believe.

To me a strict TKD man has the kickers chance just like a strict boxer has the punchers chance.

Take that TKD guy & train Muay Thai (for different types of kicks with a lesson on clinching, BJJ or Wrestling (preferably submission wrestling) with some boxing, then your "TKD" man has a fighting chance.
I respect all arts, but theat does appear to be the reality in NHB fighting.

Just my 2 cents folks,

[sapatiero]

In terms of having a kickers chance, there may be only one of those chances and (please correct me if I'm wrong) I understand that in TKD you don't use the hips in kicking (like karate for example). That means that the kick is faster, but there is less power in the kick. So that one chance may not do it.

If you're looking at art v. art, you could check out the Gracies In Action DVD's. They're obviously biased, but the proof is in the video.

But if you're against someone without training, any martial art will help.

[Hardball]

I'm like 99% sure that Kimo listed himself as a TKD stylist during that era of early UFC. Yea, he had Royce "ROCKED" in that fight but not with kicks. He rocked Royce with strikes. I'm a big fan of both men, and believe me Royce took a beating from Kimo. Not for that ponytail, Kimo would have beat Royce but hey that's why it's called No Holds Barred. Grabbing Kimo's ponytail was in fact legal.

If I get time, i will research my Black Belt Magazine Archives and find the issue that talks about this fight and Kimo being a TKD stylist at that time.

[IPON]

First off,
I don't believe Kimo was truly a TKD man.
Watch the fight, I think it was a swerve.
How many kicks did he throw?
And since his fight with Royce he now has earned a black belt in BJJ under Joe Moreira I believe.

To my knowlege Kimo was a TKD BB at least that how it was stated in the UFC fight. Regarding the fight he did what many did which is let Royce change the style of fightingso it really wasn't TKD vs GJJ it "Oh shit what do I d" vs GJJ

[IPON]

I'm a big fan of both men, and believe me Royce took a beating from Kimo.

That's the truth, Royce was conditioned for the long fight and by instinct was able to tap Kimo. It was an excellent fight but Royce won and was dragged off .... just makes you think about a street fight huh. Kimo was brutal

[NHBMARK1]

I'm like 99% sure that Kimo listed himself as a TKD stylist during that era of early UFC. Yea, he had Royce "ROCKED" in that fight but not with kicks. He rocked Royce with strikes. I'm a big fan of both men, and believe me Royce took a beating from Kimo. Not for that ponytail, Kimo would have beat Royce but hey that's why it's called No Holds Barred. Grabbing Kimo's ponytail was in fact legal.

If I get time, i will research my Black Belt Magazine Archives and find the issue that talks about this fight and Kimo being a TKD stylist at that time.

I mispoke.
What I meant to say is he didn't fight like a TKD fighter.
He was labled a TKD fighter, although I'm nnot sure he really is one. (some fighting strategy to maybe give a fighter a feeling what to expect and then not give it to him?) Just my opinion anyway.

[SamuraiGuy]

Hmmm, well to answer your question a guy who does TKD wouldnt do well in MMA/NHB/whatever you want to call it ... heres the reason...

NHB, or MMA,

MIXED....

now a solely TKD guy wouldnt do good, neither would a person who trains solely in boxing, or only wrestling, or even only Brazillian Jiu Jitsu (now a days).

A TKD guy with wrestling and Jiu Jitsu may do well...

just like a boxer with wrestling and jiu jitsu could do well...

or a muay thai and Jiu Jitsu..

Or if you were Jiu Jitsu background and took up Boxing... etc...

you need more than one style to compete effectively...

im not badmouthing TKD, after all... Maurico Shogun Rua is a TKD blackbelt, and he uses alot of fancy kicks in his fights, and if im not mistaken hes been winning quite a few lately (im not mistaken btw)....

solely TKD isnt good, but with other arts.. it can be a valuable tool.

[tkd_person89]

I agree in today's scene, cross training is essential to be a "top" fighter.

And to the one of the previous comments, I must strongtly disagree. Someone claimed that TKD guys don't use hips.


Well... I am BB and I am a great TKD aficionado and I can tell you that TKD GUYS USE HIPS TO ROTATE, PIVOT, THEN KICK WITH EXPLOSIVE POWER well.. at least the non-mcdojo people do.

[The Munster]

SamuraiGuy put it very well.

Most likely, a straight TKD practitioner isn't going to do to well in against a mixed martial artist. But that goes for any given style. Somebody that trains strictly and only in, say, Kenpo, Kungfu, Boxing, Kickboxing (and on and on and on) isn't going to do to well against a mixed martial artist.

But any practitioner of any given style (TKD or any other)that fills the holes in his training and learns more tools and techniques (mixed martial arts) is going to do well.

And, yes, depending on the TKD background, a TKD practitioner may go in with superior kicking power. Again, depending on the TKD background/school they came from.

[Hardball]

I hope the Krav Maga people are reading because everyone is open to criticisim.......................and every style too.