Deaths in MMA

[J-Luck]

HAHAHAHAHA a grappler has the edge on 3 people? lemmie see they need about a 5 hour time limit for this? What movie are you living in that grappling is the style of choice for multiple opponents?

Where was your fight experience that was so varied? lemmie guess, the sandbox, the couch and the water fountain at recess? WhereTF do you get grappling has "the edge on 3 opponents" over a stand up or fma guy? WTF are you smokin? whatever it is STOP its makin you braindead.

Lol, again your ignorance... YOU'RE THE ONE QUOTING ME. How can you take what I say out of context? That makes you look bad not me lol. I said you will probably get beat down, but that you would want to be on your feet(presumably to get away...) and who's more qualified to get up with people on top... Ummm... again I will re-state myself... you will PROBABLY GET BEAT DOWN WHEN YOU'RE JUMPED! Make sure you read the whole statement this time lol . It's kinda like... the odds are against you, but if YOU HAD TO CHOSE SOMETHING... one of those desparation type things... lol

Oh as far as my qualifications...and since that's off topic anyway... I got fam in the burbs and fam in the city man... I see people of all races... ages... fighting history(both on the street and in the gym/dojo/on the mat) and such and such. I could get into detail but I think you get it. The sandbox... lol... dawg... the quote"real niggaz do real things", that's a saying and whatnot, but I been told madd times I live by it. I mean, the whole not lying, being real with people, being who you are and saying what needs to be said regardless of whatever stands in the way, not being afraid to go toe to toe with dudes... yea, but that's my qualifications, what's yours?

[J-Luck]

Oh, and I really am not trying to be a toughguy here. Honestly, I been trying to stay outa anything lately... I mean I'm a Christian and I'm finally startin to live like one, so naaa, I aint tryin to be a toughguy or whatever, Im just sayin where I stand. And I been knocked out before lol... so trust me I have madd love for striking, and I am a boxer, I just think overall grappling is a better medium through which domination can occur, but Im not tryin to knock what you're sayin man.

[J-Luck]

well...

Lol. Since we're off topic anyway... What arts and styles do you guys train in? Just wondering. I got some boxing background, though I'd like to train much harder in it. I'm a 2 year wrestler who just started taking Bjj from Tim Burrill(hes on the bjj.org website so i thought that was cool lol). Then I'm a 1 year Kenpo white belt...I really do hate kata lol hence the no progression. I'm going to guess you're a MT guy Boar?

[BoarSpear]

Lol, again your ignorance... YOU'RE THE ONE QUOTING ME. How can you take what I say out of context? That makes you look bad not me lol. I said you will probably get beat down, but that you would want to be on your feet(presumably to get away...) and who's more qualified to get up with people on top... Ummm... again I will re-state myself... you will PROBABLY GET BEAT DOWN WHEN YOU'RE JUMPED! Make sure you read the whole statement this time lol . It's kinda like... the odds are against you, but if YOU HAD TO CHOSE SOMETHING... one of those desparation type things... lol

Oh as far as my qualifications...and since that's off topic anyway... I got fam in the burbs and fam in the city man... I see people of all races... ages... fighting history(both on the street and in the gym/dojo/on the mat) and such and such. I could get into detail but I think you get it. The sandbox... lol... dawg... the quote"real niggaz do real things", that's a saying and whatnot, but I been told madd times I live by it. I mean, the whole not lying, being real with people, being who you are and saying what needs to be said regardless of whatever stands in the way, not being afraid to go toe to toe with dudes... yea, but that's my qualifications, what's yours?

I didnt take anything out out of context, you said no matter what grappling gave you the edge..3 dudes boot parties whatever the surface, you thought grappling gave you the edge. By your thought process, If you get jumped and are subjected to a boot party, then being a grappler is the best art to teach you to deal with that situation...correct? isnt that what you said? Well thats foolish....Silat which has plenty of ground work and knives, is MUCH better suited for street self defense than any MMA art will ever make you....and is definately what im going to rely on to get me out of a boot party...ps it works really freakin well....Hell you can be the one to yell "he's got a knife" and watch the attackers bail


PS...seriously guys, im just havin fun, but im outta here i shouldnt be raggin you in your own forums...BAd boar...LOL Feel free to harass me in the urban forums...im out before SamuraiGuy starts singin again...dont wanna irk them significant poster types LOL.

[J-Luck]

lol(this is for you Boar ) also, a former full time street fighter.

[J-Luck]

I didnt take anything out out of context, you said no matter what grappling gave you the edge..3 dudes boot parties whatever the surface you thought grappling gave you the edge. By your thought process If you get jumped and are subjected to a boot party then being a grappler is the best art to teach you to deal with that situation...correct? isnt that what you said? Well thats foolish....Silat which has plenty of ground work and knives is MUCH better suited for street self defense than any MMA art will ever make you....and is definately what im going to rely on to get me out of a boot party...ps it works really freakin well....Hell you can be the one to yell "he's got a knife" and watch the attackers bail

Lol... it is the most effective... for bare hands... I mean, I didn't know we were talking weapons, in that case Im'a have to say(never did like knives) gun, baseball bat, or brass knucks. Knucks cause they always give you that Mike Tyson punch, and bat for obvious reasons. But yea, assuming you're the average non-violent martial artist/mmarist and you don't strapped, you don't keep knives on you, and you aint walkin down the street with a bat, I'm gonna go with grappling, primarily throws in the situation(judo/wrestling) to get the hell out. And naaa, its not foolish, lol, again not tryin to stir up the shit, but i think its foolish assuming otherwise... now if you're stickin round to fight them... ayyyy... idk just be madd tough and insert steel in place of bones lol.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

"and you don't strapped", shouldnt it be "and youre not strapped"

[BoarSpear]

"and you don't strapped", shouldnt it be "and youre not strapped"

Oh no an error in grammar....on the internet...the worlds gonna end...

Nothing else to contribute huh? Well just for the record, youre takin jubaji's job.

[Oreomeister365]

Gotta clarify, that guy died, yes, but that fight was un-sanctioned. He wanted to fight in the states but the doctors said he had head problems and could not. So he went to some place in Europe (I think) and fought in a place where they didn't check medical stuff, reulting in his death, so it is almost no fault but his own, as he knew he shouldn't.

[J-Luck]

Lol yes Triangle, I made a spelling mistake. Glad you can read. lol.

[SamuraiGuy]

PS...seriously guys, im just havin fun, but im outta here i shouldnt be raggin you in your own forums...BAd boar...LOL Feel free to harass me in the urban forums...im out before SamuraiGuy starts singin again...dont wanna irk them significant poster types LOL.

DAMN STRAIGHT YOU RUN AWAY!

Oh and BTW im not the great defender of the MMA forum, I simply stated wrestling on boxing, the wrestler would win. I never said wrestling/grappling was the best for a street fight. (I say knives are the best for a street fight).

And mark my words I will harass you (more) in the urban forums!

I'd also like to thank you for re iterating my signifcant poster status LOL, I would prefer it if you acknowledged yours as well though, we SP's gotta stick together,

And Jeez who does this J-Luck guy think he is, I go to sleep for a few hours and all of a sudden he thinks he can up and take my spot in the argument!

No respect for other peoples argument positions these days. Lmao.

[J-Luck]

lol sorry

[J-Luck]

why knives though... I always though it was a gat.

[SamuraiGuy]

A gat.... yes... I suppose you mean just a handgun.... I'm not down with that hip-hop, "with their hipping and a hopping and a bippin and a boppin" (bill cosby voice)

Because a gatling gun would be rather hard to carry around and conceal, I dont doubt its effectiveness though.

As for your firearm thing, I live in Canada, you cant just buy guns at walmart here, although I could get one, (from a store) its not worth it, its also a lot more illegal to just carry it around with you for no reason.

The knife you can conceal, buy anywhere, and its far less illegal, especially when I say "I work farming/landscaping" (and I do).

Plus I always thought using a gun was a pussy thing to do, anyone can shoot a gun, it takes guts to stab someone to death with a knife.

I'm not saying guns are worse, just worse for me.

[OmaPlata]

Also... if you read my previous post... its up there a couple posts... some techniques aren't practical in certain situations... such as the double leg. I don't think I would ever hop around on my butt... you seem to be making ignorant generalizations that have no practical value in this debate. The word that comes to mind is rhetoric?

Since you are semi-new here, Ill fill you in this one time:

Boar hates the Gracies, and theres nothing wrong with that, or rather, he thinks the success theyve had in MMA is exagerrated and blown way out of proportion to the quality of their fighting art.
Enter Royler vs. Sak., Royler had his hands full, as did Renzo, Royce did fine agaisnt him, the best of the 3 no doubt, but in Roylers case he was humilted and couldnt get Sak to the ground, so he sat o his ass and scooted around the ring hoping the Sak would come to the ground, but Sak just circles him kicking him in the legs. So because 1 time 1 Gracie sat on his ass like that, Boarspear claims that the Gracies teach us to fight that way and when take downs fail that we should resort to that. He is right though, that was pretty lame on Roylers part, totally embarrasing, it would have been better if he got KOd or caught in a Kimura like Renzo did.