Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Conditioning

[treelizard]

SamuraiGuy: From the FAQ

2.15. What's with the kipping pullups? Isn't it "cheating?"

There are a TON of discussions about this on the boards. Try searching for kipping and kipping pull-up via the search function. There is also an entire Crossfit journal dedicated to the kipping pullup. "if you'll read this thread on the kipping pull-up I think you'll come to see the move in a different light. It's a long read (10 pages or so) but well worth the effort. I've never seen more thoughtful or complete analysis on the movement anywhere: http://www.crossfit.com/cgi-bin/disc...=22&post=34589

"Short version: Kipping allows more work to be done in less time, thus increasing power output. It is also a full-body coordination movement when performed correctly, which applies more functionally to real-life application of pulling skills. Last, but not least, the hip motion of an effective kip mirrors the motion of the olympic lifts/kettlebell swings, adding to it's function as a posterior-chain developer."
Short Version Answer courtesy of Jesse Woody

[EvilGun]

this may sound rediculous but, yoga help make you very very good at bjj. you develope endurance in a weird way, and develope your "core" and become a very solid person. its hard to describe just try it. bikram or vinyasa ashtonga

[treelizard]

Why those three? (I admit it, I'm a yoga junkie...but I prefer Anusara...)

[Memnoch1207]

To build cardio do "suicide sprints".

[Teharesudar]

Thank you all for the tips.

The BJJ sessions (warmup and rolling) are getting easier on the oxygen. I felt safe enough yesterday to get back to my weighlifting. One thing I did note. As newbie as I am to BJJ, the strength I developed through my history of weight training has helped me avoid ALOT of submissions. I do realize, however, that I am not facing many with advanced BJJ skills.

Nontheless, it is an asset I want to keep. so yesterday I once again started (my favorite) Frankie's 5x5 routine. Yesterday was pulling day so I did deadlifts, pullups, close-grip rows, and forearm barbell curls. All 5 sets for 5 reps.

It felt great.

BTW. I know everybody is different, and I do periodize. But, Frankie's 5x5 has always been the routine has always, FOR ME, produced the most rapid gains in strength, week to week Example: In a recent 6 week period, I went from doing assisted dips with 80lbs of assistance to having to buy a belt and chain to add weight.

Nuff said.

[grappler-jordan]

Crossfit is a great conditioning tool, when done right.

For me running helped when I was in my first few months but the big leaps and bounds came when I learned how to control my breathing. Although I am still a beginner I can say for myself at least that it just took time on the mat to learn it really, I mean my instructor was beating it into to me and eventually it just happened, I just finally found myself relaxing instead of being tense all the time and holding my breath... Once that happened it was like adding a whole new tank of gas... Maybe some of the more experienced guys will have some more advice on how to learn to relax when rolling...

[Crunk Fighter]

www.lockflow.com has a bunch of mma conditioning drills you can do with pics u should check it out

[Teharesudar]

Of all the forums I visit, you are top shelf. Kudos to all who responded. you cannot measure the wealth of info provided. Take a bow.

Now. All issues have been addressed, save one. I am still " tight" in the hipp region,,,i,e, I cannot put my legs over my head while supine; hip mobility/fluidity is rather limited...a much needed asset in BJJ to apply armbars and triangles.

Once again, advice is appreciated.

Teharesudar

[treelizard]

I have the same problem, and am trying pilates, yoga and active isolated stretching. I'll let you know in a month if it's working... Hopefully other people know...

[Teharesudar]

Update:

So far, so good. I am now regularly able to control my opponents attacks, though they are all still white belts with more experience. Tonight I was able to escape any and all submissions.

Problem:

Although I can control my opponent from submitting me, I find it almost impossible to find a way to find an opening for a submission. I can defend but not attack.

Is the learning que that long, or am I just jiu jitsu retarded?

[Tant01]

Update:

So far, so good. I am now regularly able to control my opponents attacks, though they are all still white belts with more experience. Tonight I was able to escape any and all submissions.

Problem:

Although I can control my opponent from submitting me, I find it almost impossible to find a way to find an opening for a submission. I can defend but not attack.

Is the learning que that long, or am I just jiu jitsu retarded?

PC I think the word is "challenged"

You're doing well enough to thwart the attempts of the unranked players. The flow and transitions into superior positions should be felt as a primary goal, the submissions and destructions and strangles will come to you eventually. Get the positions and transitions down and then you'll have a sense of what things present themselves... Think about leg locks and armlocks while you move into position to apply a choke... Make them think you're attacking something that you know will make them move so you can attack the thing you really wanted... It's a way to anticipate by the tactile senses of your limbs his most vulnerable BALANCE point. Learn to feel his intent by the way he applies force. Don't worry too much about not getting them to tap out yet.

That part will be simple enough to recognize and take advantage of when you learn to trick them. Relax and learn to read transitions...

[aseepish]

What Tant01 said.

Don't worry about getting submissions - they'll come with more mat time. Instead, count your sweeps, reversals, and positional escapes as victories. Avoiding submissions is great, but don't get so hung up on not tapping that you get too defensive. Randori is the time to take risks - try new things, fail, get tapped out, and become wiser through the process.

[J-Luck]

this may sound rediculous but, yoga help make you very very good at bjj. you develope endurance in a weird way, and develope your "core" and become a very solid person. its hard to describe just try it. bikram or vinyasa ashtonga

I was actually thinking of Yoga for stretching. I was wondering if helps upper body flexibility.