Kimura from the guard

[SamuraiGuy]

. Drop some names if you think he isnt, please amuse us all. There isnt any dispute there, but its going to fun to watch him and either Jacare or Roger go at it in the next ADCC, DEan has his hands full either way

I hope you realize I was backing you up about the other stuff...

But as far as Dean Lister goes.. who is better than him.

Leo Viera, Jacare, Roger, they are all better.

I would say marcelo is far more skilled but the size advantage could present a problem there too.

I'm not saying Dean isnt good, but these guys are better man.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

I wouldnt call Dean Lister the best grappler in the world just because of his last fight in the UFC... He did very poorly, and im not talking about his striking.

[JkD187]

Ricardo Arona absolutely raped Dean Lister.....and he would do it over and over and over again....Marcleo Garcia and Jacare, Roger Gracie and Xande and lets not forget Leohenzo are all beter then Dean.

[OmaPlata]

Ricardo Arona absolutely raped Dean Lister.....and he would do it over and over and over again....Marcleo Garcia and Jacare, Roger Gracie and Xande and lets not forget Leohenzo are all beter then Dean.

Arona 'raped' dean? And Arona 'pussed' out of the superfight last year. Andsure hope you arent refererning to their fight in Pride,. where Dean owned Arona on the ground. The fight was 1-1 going into the 3rd round and Dean gassed and lost a close decision. A long way from raping him, a way long way. Jacare has been tapped out in the ADCC, Dean hasnt, only losing by a point or 2 the times he did lose. Jacare is awesome though, same with ROger, and we'll see when the superfight comes along with either one of those 2 and Dean. Dean will beat Jacare due to Jacare being a very aggresive attacker, he will make a mistake and Dean will tap him. Roger will due much better, but it may be a boring hug fest on the ground, with Roger wining by a 2 points at most, if he wins.
Dean is the ADCC champ multi time, he is the best grappler right now. Marcelo is too small, but more skilled I agree. Arona, what a joke, he isnt nearly as accomplished as Dean as a grappler.

HEres a cool Lister vid I just saw by chance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEpoLvD-T90

[OmaPlata]

I hope you realize I was backing you up about the other stuff...

But as far as Dean Lister goes.. who is better than him.

Leo Viera, Jacare, Roger, they are all better.

I would say marcelo is far more skilled but the size advantage could present a problem there too.

I'm not saying Dean isnt good, but these guys are better man.

You guys must have not watched the last 3 ADCCs, thats all I gotted say. Jacare is phenomenal, so is Roger. Viera has been tapped by Lister, far as i remember, so hes off the list, and even if not, what has he won in grapping?

[OmaPlata]

I wouldnt call Dean Lister the best grappler in the world just because of his last fight in the UFC... He did very poorly, and im not talking about his striking.

Im not talking about MMA. but now that you bring it up, Dean has submitted all people that he has beaten but 1

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Im not talking about MMA. but now that you bring it up, Dean has submitted all people that he has beaten but 1

Ok, so what? His striking still sucks, his takedowns are no good, his GnP is non exsistant and he gasses. Did you see his last UFC fight against that Japanese Pancrase fighter? Completely neutralized by a Pancrase(not mma) fighter!!!

[JkD187]

1-1 going into the third....thats highly debatable but ok your intitled to your opinion....what i saw was dean getting shutdown for three rounds and losing a not even close decision.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

^Agreed. MMA is not Dean's cup of tea.

*waits for Omaplata to reply with some biased, irrational comment*

[OmaPlata]

Ok, so what? His striking still sucks, his takedowns are no good, his GnP is non exsistant and he gasses. Did you see his last UFC fight against that Japanese Pancrase fighter? Completely neutralized by a Pancrase(not mma) fighter!!!

Yeah that was a lousy fight, Dean dropped from 210-205 to 185 pretty quick and that was his first fight at 185. His striking needs major work, I agree there

[J-Luck]

So basically you do it the exact fucking way as everyone else?

What was the point of this post...

Lol... I love these points where you demolish people. Maybe I shouldn't, but I do.

[J-Luck]

FIrst off asshole, this messege board is BJJ and MMA, I was talking about a BJJ move that is done in MMA often, remo. and at least I would execute the move properly and thus INCREASE my chances to pull it off, instead of failing before i even started. So I have to be an MMA fighter to know about MMA moves? IF thats the case, you must not have ever even seen 1 MMA fight in your life. LOL. I musta touched a soft spot in that dim-witted-anterior-ganglion that you call an excuse for a brain. I didnt criticize ,I pointed out a common mistake. Funny, you havent pointed out shit except to try and bash Rolls Gracie who trained the greatest BJJ practioner of all time; Rickson, and who was the only person to ever tap out Rickson after he turned 17yrs old and the who was arguably the best BJJ fighter ever.
Rolls Gracie fighters he trained before he died:
Carlos Jr, Romero Jacare Cavelcanti, Pedro Sauer, Marcelo Bhering, Crolin Gracie, all five Machado brothers ,Fabio Santos, and his protege Rickson Gracie
So you can go down the tree from there FUCKTARD, we can start with Fabio who trained Dean Lister, the best grappler in the world right now. If I started with Carlos Jr fighters Id fill up the page, but we can mention Babalu for kicks. Though Liddell has his number, he is still a bad ass MMA fighter.

So if you require any further complete mental domination, put your chicken fingers on that stolen keyboard you 'borrowed' from Kmart and try to stumble onto a sentence or thought, that'd be a neat trick

I'm not being a dick, for once, but I was wondering, isn't the anterior ganglion part of the eye. We just learned this in psycology. Correct me if I'm wrong. Again, it's not a smart ass comment, just wondering.

[OmaPlata]

I'm not being a dick, for once, but I was wondering, isn't the anterior ganglion part of the eye. We just learned this in psycology. Correct me if I'm wrong. Again, it's not a smart ass comment, just wondering.

NO, its a bundle of nerves in a snakes head (also worms, and catfish), it isnt quite developed enough to call it a brain. So as with that idiot that posted, he doesnt 'quite' have a brain, so we'll call it an excuse for a brain, an anterior ganglion. Poor fella that guy.
Far as the eye goes i dont recall anything that sounds like that term, maybe the aqueous humor?

[Adept]

NO, its a bundle of nerves in a snakes head (also worms, and catfish), it isnt quite developed enough to call it a brain. So as with that idiot that posted, he doesnt 'quite' have a brain, so we'll call it an excuse for a brain, an anterior ganglion. Poor fella that guy.
Far as the eye goes i dont recall anything that sounds like that term, maybe the aqueous humor?

Actually, I have more brains than you. You ignored my last reply. What, couldn't find a logical answer to my last reply? Didn't think so. But, as they say, ignorance is bliss. Maybe you're taking that route, Omo?

As for the whole anterior ganglion. Please don't project yourself towards me. I'm not stuck up like you. I'll admit when I'm proven wrong, unlike yourself which you seem to like to move towards calling people idiots simply because you have no real case to argue with, so you move to calling other people idiots when you're one yourself.

Funny that, an idiot calling other people an idiot.

[OmaPlata]

[QUOTE=Adept;241507]Actually, I have more brains than you. You ignored my last reply. What, couldn't find a logical answer to my last reply? Didn't think so. But, as they say, ignorance is bliss. Maybe you're taking that route, Omo?
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This is ignoring your last reply? Maybe youcant read or comprehend, it pretty much demolished your last reply, and by showing that, Im demolishing this one too, lol, you tool:

" Originally Posted by Adept
Yeah, his STUDENTS are alive and well....and your POINT? Also, point out any of Rolls' students fighting in MMA. GOD please. Please prove me wrong, it gets me high. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Omo, it's people like you who critisize other people in MMA matches about what they do wrong. It's easy to say they did this and then try to pretend you're some MMA expert. I'm sorry....what's YOUR MMA record? I'd like to see you in the UFC to try that Kimura from the guard and succeed. You .[/b]

HERES THE REPLY SO YOU CAN READ IT AGAIN MORON: FIrst off asshole, this messege board is BJJ and MMA, I was talking about a BJJ move that is done in MMA often, remo. and at least I would execute the move properly and thus INCREASE my chances to pull it off, instead of failing before i even started. So I have to be an MMA fighter to know about MMA moves? IF thats the case, you must not have ever even seen 1 MMA fight in your life. LOL. I musta touched a soft spot in that dim-witted-anterior-ganglion that you call an excuse for a brain. I didnt criticize ,I pointed out a common mistake. Funny, you havent pointed out shit except to try and bash Rolls Gracie who trained the greatest BJJ practioner of all time; Rickson, and who was the only person to ever tap out Rickson after he turned 17yrs old and the who was arguably the best BJJ fighter ever.
Rolls Gracie fighters he trained before he died:
Carlos Jr, Romero Jacare Cavelcanti, Pedro Sauer, Marcelo Bhering, Crolin Gracie, all five Machado brothers ,Fabio Santos, and his protege Rickson Gracie
So you can go down the tree from there FUCKTARD, we can start with Fabio who trained Dean Lister, the best grappler in the world right now. If I started with Carlos Jr fighters Id fill up the page, but we can mention Babalu for kicks. Though Liddell has his number, he is still a bad ass MMA fighter. "