erik paulson submission wrestling

[Rebiu]

Wrong direction.

Yes i have a bunch of wrestlers and strikers with bad submission and submission defense.....Next?

You invalidate yourself not the Militech camp with such a simplistic and partisan assertion. The Militech School is the most successful in the world. Therefore regardless of their perceived weaknesses they are doing something right.

[Rebiu]

Absolutes are not realistic.

Actually, if I were to bet on a fight between a "Jack of All Trades" versus a "Master of One", I'd vote for the former every time. Breadth is more valuable than depth.

I suggest that you can master more than one trade. The issue is not the individual as a fighter but the School. A school needs more than a good instructor. A school needs a depth of people to train with at all skill levels. You will generally find better instruction at specialized schools. The integration of technique can be provided at a general school but only once sufficient depth and proficiency is achieved in individual aspects.

[Rebiu]

Mmmm Hmmmm

the rest all grabed his hair and held him down while they won a decision/tko cut stoppage.

Sounds to me like he does not learn from his mistakes then.

[sapatiero]

Thirteen years was a long time ago it is true.You may be correct. The question now is how capable are you of judging his skill level.

Well I'm not a black belt, but I've trained with Rorion, Royce, Royler, Rolker, Ryron, Rener, Carlos jr, Marcio Fetosa, Carlos Lemos, Lagarto, Babalu, and a few other BJJ world champions & MMA stars in the UK/USA/Brazil/Italy. Using them as a comparison I'd say Erik is extremely knowledgeable & a very clear communicator & instructor. But one thing that struck me was how open he was - there was no holding anything back.

[sapatiero]

I suggest that you can master more than one trade. The issue is not the individual as a fighter but the School. A school needs more than a good instructor. A school needs a depth of people to train with at all skill levels. You will generally find better instruction at specialized schools. The integration of technique can be provided at a general school but only once sufficient depth and proficiency is achieved in individual aspects.

I agree. That's why most MMA schools will have coaches for standup/groundwork, rather than a standup guy trying to teach some groundwork or visa versa. But if people want to stick to one trade, that's fine. Personally I don't think I'll ever be a 'fully rounded fighter' in todays MMA terms - as striking will always play second fiddle to my BJJ. But I'm happy with that.

[DJColdfusion]

You think Dan Inosanto is a legit BJJ black belt aaaahahahahahahah. Dan Insosanto is a Martial Arts Business man and bit actor he is not a fighter and never has been. I apreciate what he has done for martial arts but he is not technique Guru.You think Paulson is competative with the Machado Bros themselves then? How many times has Paulsen submitted a Machado Brother?I trained at with Machado Brothers for three years. I trained with Eric a few times. I watched him teach classes at the Inosanto Academy. I watched a few of his fights. He sucks!

Is Dan a legit black belt????? Have you ever seen him roll? The guy is in his 60's and moves like he's a 20 year old prepping for the Mundials. The guys is an absolute beast!

And a "martial arts business man" is that supposed to be an insult? He makes his living teaching martial arts . . . so yes, he is a martial arts business man. How is this a bad thing?

[JkD187]

You invalidate yourself not the Militech camp with such a simplistic and partisan assertion. The Militech School is the most successful in the world. Therefore regardless of their perceived weaknesses they are doing something right.

You know shit about MMA so next question? Miletich is one of the most Successful schools in AMERICA yes...but they are closely followed by ATT in america....dont even get me started in Japan and Brazil....and like a said a bunch of Wrestlers and Strikers with Bad submissions and Submission defense....Name one Great sub guy at Miletich....and dont give me that Horn shit either..his ground game isnt anything special...he beat a bunch of cans and always loses to a level fighters....go ahead name another.

[JkD187]

Sounds to me like he does not learn from his mistakes then.

Well he did cut his hair after afterwards....but still what could he do when a guy grabs his locks.

[Rebiu]

There it is.

Well I'm not a black belt, but I've trained with Rorion, Royce, Royler, Rolker, Ryron, Rener, Carlos jr, Marcio Fetosa, Carlos Lemos, Lagarto, Babalu, and a few other BJJ world champions & MMA stars in the UK/USA/Brazil/Italy. Using them as a comparison I'd say Erik is extremely knowledgeable & a very clear communicator & instructor. But one thing that struck me was how open he was - there was no holding anything back.

Now I understand. You are part of the Rorion crowd. Listen buddy. Let me fill you in on a little something. When Rorion started teaching he would bring family from Brazil to teach. Among this family were Rickson and Rigan Machado. They taught at his school see. Then they left to open their own schools and every student of quality left with them see. The only people who stayed were the famehounds and groupies. The quality of grappling is very low by Brazilian standards.

I can tell by your name dropping, that list fame before skill, that you are a poor judge of skill. Everyone with a bit of sense can see the Royce Gracie is a bad example of BJJ.

[Rebiu]

Not an insult at all.

Is Dan a legit black belt????? Have you ever seen him roll? The guy is in his 60's and moves like he's a 20 year old prepping for the Mundials. The guys is an absolute beast!

Bullshit total Bullshit.

And a "martial arts business man" is that supposed to be an insult? He makes his living teaching martial arts . . . so yes, he is a martial arts business man. How is this a bad thing?

Not an insult at all. He is not and never has been a fighter. I do not believe he has ever produced a world class fighter. He looked into BJJ after he tried that sorry assed Japanese pro wrestling nonsense. In fact that is what Paulsen was teaching befor BJJ came along. The Inosanto crowd tried to compete with BJJ but were light years from it so the finally started training with the Machados.

[Rebiu]

You have a point there.

G,
watching Erik fight and fighting Erik are two remarkably different experiences.

You are correct fighting Erik would be less painful than having to watch him.

[Rebiu]

Obvious bait.

Miletich is one of the most Successful schools in AMERICA yes...

No no that is not what I said. They are by far and without peer the most successful school.

but they are closely followed by ATT in america....

Never heard of American Top Team.

dont even get me started in Japan and Brazil....

Please elaborate.

and like a said a bunch of Wrestlers and Strikers with Bad submissions and Submission defense....Name one Great sub guy at Miletich....and dont give me that Horn shit either..his ground game isnt anything special...he beat a bunch of cans and always loses to a level fighters....go ahead name another.

There are no great submission guys at Militech's. Come to think of it I cannot think of a great submission guy in MMA. What does this have to do with Militech's being the most successful?

[Rebiu]

Hair pull counter.

Well he did cut his hair after afterwards....but still what could he do when a guy grabs his locks.

I the guy knew any BJJ he would have pulled the guard and armbarred the hair puller.

[DJColdfusion]

Bullshit total Bullshit.Not an insult at all. He is not and never has been a fighter. I do not believe he has ever produced a world class fighter. He looked into BJJ after he tried that sorry assed Japanese pro wrestling nonsense. In fact that is what Paulsen was teaching befor BJJ came along. The Inosanto crowd tried to compete with BJJ but were light years from it so the finally started training with the Machados.

Dan Inosanto NEVER has done any sort of "pro wrestling" stuff. If you are referring to Shooto then you're high as a kite. Yori Nakamura one of the founders of Shooto came to the states to train in JKD under Inosanto. After he got here and started training with Guro Dan he ended up showing some Shooto ground work and that was about the time Erikl started working with him. And as a former Shooto world champ I'd say Erik is world class and he Dan Inosanto was and still is one of his trainers.

[DJColdfusion]

Now I understand. You are part of the Rorion crowd. Listen buddy. Let me fill you in on a little something. When Rorion started teaching he would bring family from Brazil to teach. Among this family were Rickson and Rigan Machado. They taught at his school see. Then they left to open their own schools and every student of quality left with them see. The only people who stayed were the famehounds and groupies. The quality of grappling is very low by Brazilian standards.

I can tell by your name dropping, that list fame before skill, that you are a poor judge of skill. Everyone with a bit of sense can see the Royce Gracie is a bad example of BJJ.

Get your BJJ history right. Rorion did not import Rigan. Rigan sold his two schools in Brazil and moved to the USA at the behest of none other than Chuck Norris . . . yes that Chuck Norris. How do I know this? Rigan himself told me while we were eating at Betos (a 24 hour Mexican place) at around 2am the last time he was in Utah.