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    Hello, Ill make this quick, Ive currently been doing Shorinji Kempo for 2 years now and have recently been concidering doing another martial art on my days off, so far I found these options:
    BJJ
    Krav Maga
    boxing
    (I wont be leaving Shorinji Kempo cause I enjoy it to much lol)
    Boxing would probly be the easiest to get too, BJJ Iv never really had much interest in and never found the need for ground fighting (yet) but am willing to ignore that and give it a good go, krav maga sounds quite simple and effective.
    What do you guys think I should go for?

  • #2
    Speaking as someone whose done all three....

    Krav Maga is best if you have like 4 weeks to train... after that its tactics, etc... it'll make you 10X better at defending yourself in a short amount of time (assuming you have no training before), but theres a definite roof there.

    What im saying is it only takes you to a certain level of training, even self defense training where you can go so much higher with others. Plus if your interested in MMA/Sports you wont be going anywher ewith just Krav Maga. Just my experience and I was at one of the better schools apparently.

    This isnt a knock on Krav Maga.

    Secondly I do both BJJ and boxing, if you dont feel like you want to do BJJ, dont because you wont get anywhere if you dont enjoy it. The first 3-6 months is repeatedly getting embarassed and your ass kicked, if you dont really enjoy or love it, your not going to stick with it.

    Boxing you said is closest to you, easiest to transition to I imagine, and whatnot, thing is it myconflict with what you already know.

    With that said boxing or bjj, I'd try bjj for like.... a class at least, basically as much as you can get without signing up. If you still arent hooked (I personally dont see how anyone could avoid getting hooked) than go for boxing.

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    • #3
      Since u are coming from a kempo background I have a suggestion for u...Stop wasting $ at the kempo school, go to the boxing gym a few nights a week and go to the BJJ school on ur time off

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SamuraiGuy View Post
        The first 3-6 months is repeatedly getting embarassed and your ass kicked, if you dont really enjoy or love it, your not going to stick with it.
        True. And I'd add leave your ego at the door.

        I started doing it along time ago as an advanced rank in one style, struggling against white belts with 6+ months of experience and getting tapped in a few minutes by blue belts.

        Its probably not a good art for someone with no experience in any MA and a sooper-dooper sized ego, like Samurai Guy said you will get manhandled at first
        Last edited by Tom Yum; 03-20-2007, 06:19 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tom Yum View Post
          True. And I'd add leave your ego at the door.

          I started doing it along time ago as an advanced rank in one style, struggling against white belts with 6+ months of experience and getting tapped in a few minutes by blue belts.

          Its probably not a good art for someone with no experience in any MA and a sooper-dooper sized ego, like Samurai Guy said you will get manhandled at first
          By the 130 pound guys and the women too....

          Easily.... I've been doing it for awhile now and the 130 pounders still get me (well the better of them heh heh, you do get better).

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          • #6
            Do the style that offers something Kempo does not and that you would like to learn.

            Ensure the club you choose has created an environment where you can learn under good instruction and safely.

            Make sure you enjoy your new training and after a while you will start to mix it with the Kempo you already know making you more well rounded and hopefully you will get a greater understand of Martial Arts, self defence and combat.

            And ignore those who like to tell you what style you should do because they hold stupid ignorant opinions regarding Martial Arts that they don't do.

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            • #7
              No thanks MRLFTHOOK2U no way Im leaving Shorinji Kempo for boxing(I find boxers in my school/area arrogant and only learn it to push people around), I like SHORINJI Kempo its quite a good mix of judo karate etc(most japan arts) alot of the throws we learn are like aikido but are more relistic it also has a really good philosopy on how to live etc which I enjoy, and its different from your average kenpos/kempos And I find it has more quality than the kempo schools in my area most of them are only out there for money sadly enough.
              I dont want to take boxing for now as the instructors in my area are all quite arrogant and over confident in themselves(with boxing alone) and I cant be botherd wasting my time with people like that.
              The style that offers more than my Shorinji Kempo training would be BJJ as Shorinji Kempo doesnt do alot of ground work from what Ive seen (in shorinji kempo you get them to the ground then counter but dont go down with them) but I am yet to check the bjj school out, Ill have to have a look this week.

              "And ignore those who like to tell you what style you should do because they hold stupid ignorant opinions regarding Martial Arts that they don't do." dont worry I do, I usually get the whole kempo/kenpo isnt very good thing, Shorinji Kempo is in my opinion is very different to your average kempo and better as its much more rounded (not souly based on striking) and as of yet Iv found it work well for me, which is more important than what somone else finds work for them.

              PS: Wildwest by location:NZ do you mean Newzealand if so, same here lol

              also MRLFTHOOK2U, Shorinji Kempo is a non profit organization, our monthly fees go to paying for the rent of our trianing hall nothin else, so the real reason why our teachers are there is to teach not there to earn money.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SamuraiGuy View Post
                By the 130 pound guys and the women too....

                Easily.... I've been doing it for awhile now and the 130 pounders still get me (well the better of them heh heh, you do get better).

                I'm a 148 pound blue and I love tapping out the 220 pounders

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JaredExtreme View Post
                  I'm a 148 pound blue and I love tapping out the 220 pounders
                  I'm not that tubby...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SamuraiGuy View Post
                    By the 130 pound guys and the women too.....
                    True. I remember getting subbed constantly by a 140-ish blue belt in his late 30's. He wasn't a very athletic dude either, but he had skills.
                    Last edited by Tom Yum; 03-23-2007, 12:06 AM.

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                    • #11
                      KenshiRyan> yes NZ.

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                      • #12
                        First off, I have met very few cocky boxers, for the most part boxers are the most down to earth ez going people out there...A lot of trainers/boxers have a little attitude, but that goes with the game...Now if u went in there talking about you being a kempo guy that might be the reason for it..

                        As far as the school u go to being non profit...Big deal ...I have been to 2 boxing gyms in the country that I had to pay dues in...One being Golden Gloves in Las Vegas and the other being Johnny Tocco's also in Vegas..Instead of going to some health club looking for a place to learn to box, take ur ass into the hood to a community center and learn real boxing.

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                        • #13
                          PAL gyms offer boxing programs and are also free.

                          And I agree, usually boxers are "not" cocky. If they are, it's usually beat out of them pretty quickly.

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                          • #14
                            guys no need to get up tight I said in my area, nothign about everyone one of them in the world being like that. dw. and no i didnt go on saying I do this n that they asked I said.

                            Lol WildWest. which part of NZ?

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                            • #15
                              Just do what you're going to enjoy.

                              Boxing will be difficult at first because of the techniques that you have ingrained through all of your Kempo study. You'll have some frustration there.

                              Jiu-Jitsu won't be easy either, for the reasons mentioned above, and the inevitable spazz factor . . . where you try too damn hard and people feel like they have to shut you down to keep from letting you hurt them. The first 3-6 months in Jiu-Jitsu are very difficult for anyone and even more so with guys who have egos. Check the ego at the door and never go harder than your training partners are ready to go.

                              With Krav-Maga you'll face problems similar to what you will face in boxing. The techniques won't be anything like what you do in Kempo and you will find the instructors asking you do do techniques in a way that your Kempo instructor would not approve. That's alright, its a different system.

                              Try each one, see which one you like and whether you are willing to let Boxing and/or Krav-Maga potentially interfer with your Kempo . . . and then make the decision for yourself.

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