Murilo "Ninja" is NOT a real ninja!

[Szczepankiewicz]

Are you talking about the show with Lee Van Cleef (of Western fame) and some punk kid in a van who travel around and do good deeds? They have a little hamster in the van in a cage.

Lee Van Cleef as John Peter McAlister, Timothy Van Patten, and Sho Kosugi.

I looked it up on IMDB. Yeah, loved that show....

The van was the coolest!

SZ

[sidder]

Ya. That's the show. Real cheese. (Ron Van Clief is the kung fu guy - I always mix them up)

[sccr06]

I remember that show too!! Of course, as we ALL know, Lee Van Cleef only has to use his six gun to mow down Ron "the aged dragon" Van Cleef. I study Colt-do.

[Hungryjack]

Who loves ya, baby?

Yes, I've been gone for a while, but darn, I sure missed Patterson. His posts were always "dang impressive."

[SweepEm]

Re: Who loves ya, baby?

Originally posted by Hungryjack
Yes, I've been gone for a while, but darn, I sure missed Patterson. His posts were always "dang impressive."

"Dang Impressive?"

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(taking a breath)

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[shinbushi]

Bujinkan is not aikijutsu

The martial art of the Bujinkan(Masaaki Hatsumi's organization) is called Budo Taijutsu. Budo Taijutsu was compiled by Sôke Masaaki Hatsumi based on the essence of nine distinct classical Japanese martial traditions (kobujutsu). Three of this ryu are Ninjutsu or Ninpo ryu and the other six ryu are more conventional martial traditions.

Budo Taijutsu includes the study of both unarmed and armed combative techniques, strategy, philosophy, and history. The idea is to become adept at many things, rather than specializing in only one.

The main principles in combat are posture, distance, rhythm and flow. The practitioner responds to attacks in such a way that they place themselves in an advantageous position from which an effective response can be employed. They are taught to use the entire body for every movement/technique, to provide the most power and leverage. They will use the openings created by the opponent’s movement to implement techniques, often causing the opponent to "run in/on to" body weapons.

The areas of combat taught are:
Taihenjutsu: (Body changing skills), which include falling, rolling, leaping, posture, and avoidance.
Dakentaijutsu: (Striking techniques) using the entire body as a striking tool/ weapon.
Jutaijutsu: (Grappling techniques) locks, throws, chokes, holds, and breaks - how to apply and how to escape.
Bugu: (Weapons techniques) Classical (sword, staff, spear, chain halberd) and modern (gun, knife, impromptu)
The 9 Ryu-ha are:

• Gyokko-ryu Kosshijutsu Happo Biken was founded in the mid 1100's by Tozawa Hakûnsai. The oldest Ryu in Masaaki Hatsumi's Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu system. Most famous for the basics of the Bujinkan system:
• Togakure-ryu Ninpo Happo Biken was founded in the late 1100's by Daisuke Nishina. The second oldest Ryu in the Bujinkan system. This school is famous for it's different Ninjutsu weapons such as the Shuko, Shinodake, Shuriken, etc.
• Kukishinden-ryu Taijutsu Happo Biken was founded in the mid 1300’s by Izumo Kanja Yoshitero. school is most famous in Bujinkan for the many different weapon techniques.
• Shindenfudo-ryu Dakentaijutsu Happo Biken was founded in the beginning of 1100 by Izumo Kaja Yoshitero. Most famous in Bujinkan for the rough Dakentaijutsu techniques.
• Gyokushin-ryu Ninpo Happo Biken was founded in the mid 1500 by Sasaki Goemon Teruyoshi.
• Koto-ryu Koppojutsu Happo Biken was founded in the mid 1500 by Sakagami Taro Kunishige. Most famous in Bujinkan for the Koppojutsu (unarmed grappling techniques that attack the body’s structure), and unusual Biken (sword) style of fighting.
• Gikan-ryu Koppo Taijutsu Happo Biken was founded in the mid 1500 by Uryu Hangan Gikanbo. Most famous in Bujinkan for the difficult and odd Kamae's in it's taijutsu. This school is also specialized in Koppojutsu.
• Takagiyoshin-ryu Jutaijutsu Happo Biken was founded in the beginning of 1600 by Takagi Oriuemon Shigenobu. Most famous in Bujinkan as a "Bodyguard School" fast and effective Jujutsu techniques, and Daishosabaki (Jujutsu while wearing both swords in the belt).
• Kumogakure-ryu Ninpo Happo Biken was founded in the mid 1500 by Iga Heinaizaemon No Jo Ienaga. Most famous in Bujinkan for the Kamayari, and jumping techniques.

For more info check out Mats Hjelm's site

[Szczepankiewicz]

I take it that you know Doc?

[shinbushi]

Knew 'Doc' in Michigan

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz
I take it that you know Doc?

Yes trained with him in the 80's in Michigan. His knowledge of the Bujinkan is actually limited. He has his own art called Hoshinjutsu which is a lot of Chi kung, mixed with a lot of arts including Budo Taijutsu. Nice guy but kinda excentric

[Szczepankiewicz]

Eccentric? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? All you ninja guys are a little out there....

I have his three books and one of my peers has attended one of his seminars. Very interesting fellow, and style.


How do you fit into the whole scheme of things?

Seriously, I do have many questions about these arts, and I would appreciate a dialogue with you if possible.


Thanks,

SZ

[Rubbaneck]

I did a seminar once with Michael Dudikoff.

[Szczepankiewicz]

Too bad you didn't get the job... Fluffer was it?

[shinbushi]

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz
How do you fit into the whole scheme of things?

I lived and trained in Japan for 7 yrs and now an a school owner in Torrance.

[grey-ninja]

Saddenly,
There really is no more such thing as ninjutsu. If you do the research, you'll discover that the only surviving records of ninjutsu are really vague - no specific martial arts techniques or anything like that. But, because of their role in the history of the always popular samurai culture, public interest was stirred in ninja stories and movies. Hatsumi, a student of aikijujitsu, read up on ninja history and lore and passed his stuff off as ninjutsu, getting students like Stephen K Hayes to sell his brand of "ninjutsu", while sending back tidy sums to Hatsumi. If there's any doubt, take a close look at the joint manipulation techniques of ninjutsu and notice how closely they resemble those of aikijujutsu. Anyone who claims otherwise should offer some concrete evidence, rather than insults and bad spelling, bitch!

there are still people who study the type of martial arts known as ninjitsu, that was not influenced by hatsumi, there are very very very few schools that teach this authentic ninjitsu, only 3 schools i know of , and its not aikijuitsu, nor is it taught by anyone from hatsumi, but by hatsumi's ,teacher . this type of ninjitsu , has remained the same and was taught by hatsumi's teacher , it was passed down to a few people who most are dead and only a few around know of this art , that is most authentic . genbukan and bujinkan and jijenkan are legitimate ninjitsu arts, that are watered down/. influenced by samurai techniques of hand combat , if its a real ninjitsu dojo, they will teach u every from lock-picking to water fighting , bujinkan and the other two , only teach you weapons , hand combat ,.silent walking and a few other things, . they are too modernized .

like i said there is still one or two authentic forms and sidder , if u dont believe authentic ninjitsu exists, i sincerely hope you dont come into contact with my classmates in the dojo .

[mixwell]

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet but the name he uses the handle ninja was because when he was a kid he had a fascination with ninjas and adopted the handle "ninja"

[cam427]

Ninjas are not literally invisbile, though they are very skilled at blending in with their environment and going unnoticed. A bum on the street may be a ninja in disguise, or a lamp post may actually be a ninja. There are no legitimate ninja schools one can attend. I haven't read any books on ninjas so I can not comment on their validity.

A LAMP POST HA HA HA HA HA !!!!



Whoa dude, did you get that from the life of brian?

ha ha ha ha