Sport vs. Vale Tudo (differences in the same tec)

[Mako]

Here's a question. Do you have techniques that you "cheat" a little bit on in sport that would lead to gettiing you knocked out in VT? Is this training teaching you bad habits?

(example, passing the open guard, you can lean in a little bit if you need to, knowing the opponent can't kick your face... if you get used to this, you could get kicked like Renzo did to Oleg.)

Another example, getting the armbar from closed guard. Most times I don't underhook the leg, knowing I'm not going to get picked up and slammed (illegal move), training the move this way could end up being bad in the long run.

You guys have any I might be missing?

[Hookah Smokin Caterpillar]

How about having a closed guard when you can easily be punched in the nuts from that position?

[Underdog]

The only real way to pass a guard is to grab the throath of the guy with one hand, stand up with the weight on his and punch the shit outta him until he release. If he attempts arm bar, pass the leg over you and countinue do punch, knee and headbutt.

[Chad W. Getz]

Interesting, Underdog.

[Tony10]

The Sperry pass! Love that one!

[Underdog]

Tony10, right on track!

I learned the punching guard pass from Marco Ruas, but, yes when I checked the sperry vale tudo series I found it there too.

A few hints: when you have grabbed the guy throatha and you start standing, keep your legs wide, or you'll get sweeped, also, when the opp. will try the arm bar (everyone try it) it's fairly easy to do a step forward and push the leg over your head, ending in the croos mount.

Hope I have explained it right...

[Tony10]

Yup, you have. I like that one.

[Chad W. Getz]

It's funny to see that grappling is conceptual. Being a big guy, that guy that I'm grappling with showed me about throwing the leg over after you unhook the heel. Yesterday before reading Underdog's post, I was watching Tony Lopez do the a move that has the same concept. By conceptual, I mean the moves were a little different, but they had the same goal of getting past the leg the same way for the same end result and by following the same principles. Well, Underdog is just the third example solidifying this line of thought for me.