THE Question Is What Is Your Track Record?

You obviously didnt understand what I was saying. First off you should be in the gym for along time IMO 6mos. before you spar. But once you get in the ring you need to take your lumps like a man. When you talk about how the greats were trained,you probaly think Angelo Dundee started Ray Leonard off. But you are wrong Dundee is a snake,he took Leonard from Janx Morton who trained him from his first amateur fight until he was deemed by Leonard's management team not good enough to train him as a pro. But I can tell you have no idea about the boxing buisness. Most all great fighters did get beat on in the gym. It's the only way to get better. You say you can guarantee me that's not the way Leonard and Trinidad learned,you are wrong. I don't know about Leonard but I know for a fact Trinidad was sparring with Wilfredo Benitez and other contenders from Puerto Rico. I really doubt Benitez would risk being shown up from a 13 y/o kid. So I am sure he got the hell beat out of him. His father more than likely encouraged it.

Lets talk about how old time trainers train fighters. My original trainers were Jesse Sandoval who trained Thad Spencer who was the #1 contender for the Heavy weight title in the late 60's. He also trained Mike Colbert who fought Marvin Hagler and Thomas Hearns. My other trainer was Chuck Lincoln who trained Ray Lampkin who fought Roberto Duran in Panama in 72' for the lightweight title. Lampkin was ahead on all cards when he was stopped in the 13th round. He also trained the Knott St. Boxing Club in the early 60's that had 6 fighters win the US nationals in one year. A record that still stands. I can tell you they put me thru the school of hard knocks. I was in the ring after about 4mos. and was getting worked over. They never let me quit and worked my defense constantly. I would have to spar a round throwing no punches. Another round using just my left hand. When I fought they did not give me easy fights. I came back after taking 3 years off and my first fight back was against a jr. olympic champion.

My track record is this. I won 2 regional jr.olympic titles at 14 and 15. Both times at the jo's I drew the eventual winner in my second fight and gave them both tough fights. Emmanuel Stewart was the trainer of one of the guys and he came up and told me I was screwed. I have won Regional golden gloves and regional national titles. I have worked with such trainers as ROger Mayweather,Miguel DIaz,Eddie Mustafa Muhaamad,BUbba Stotts and Cornelius Boza Edwards. I have sparred with contenders David Sample,Vernon Forrest and Steve "2pound" Forbes. World champions like Roger Mayweather,Eddie Cook and Livingstone Bramble. When most kids where in high school at 16,I was learning at the school of Boxiana. I was a little gym rat living in Vegas with my cousin Pat Briceno who was a welterweight contender and 1991 national champion at 147. He beat Pepe Reilly who was on the olympic team in 92.

SO WHO HAVE YOU TRAINED WITH?