MT vs TKD

[tigerking]

hello all
just wondering has anyone seen, have a copy, or direct me as to whereabouts i might be able to find a videoclip of a muay thai vs. TKD ringfight. apparently its at morpheus .com.
can anyone help me with this one? damned if i can find it.
thanks

[Shimora]

I to have seen this event.

I shall come back to you with details on where to witness it.

[tigerking]

thanks shimora, i havent seen the clip yet, but i would like too. apparently the MT guy wins the fight, but im just interested to see what the TKD does against him.
thanks again. talk to you soon.

[Rob B]

I saw it

Here it is, the TKD guy is lucky this could have been alot worse.

http://www.muaythai.fi/assets/videot/mastercup.mpg

[tigerking]

thankyou very much, much appreciated. im at work at the moment but ill watch it a bit later on.

[tigerking]

the TKD go was extremely lucky at times i thought, the MT could have hit him a few more times with some punches i thought. anyhow wasnt much done by the TKD guy, he had no answers really. thanks guys.
Any other art vs. art mpegs that are interesting?

[Rob B]

That TKD guy was absolutely brutal. Hands down by his waist, not one punch thrown and his only weapons were a side, cresent and spinning kick. People wonder why Sport TKD is made fun of all the time.

[JaredExtreme]

To be fair here, I'd like to see the whole match. Seeing an edited video clip made by the Muay Thai side is kind of biased. But, that being said, the TKD guy sucked. Watching the video, he telegraphed most of his kicks (which appeared to be pretty weak anyway) and just didn't seem aggresive..

Overall, I think Muay Thai is more competition and conditioning oriented that TKD. My BJJ shares a building with a TKD class, and I have to try hard not to break out into laughter when I watch them train.

My money would always be on Muay Thai.

[Szczepankiewicz]

Now how many fighters do you know that have a big fat "TAEKWANDO" label across their gi?

Most people will advertise their schools, or their organization, but rarely their overall discipline.


I have seen many Gracie, Machado, and other logos for BJJ'rs, but NEVER have I seen "JIU JITSU" labled on anyone in such a manner.

Reminds me of the generic brand of "BEER".


Hmmmm

SZ

[Szczepankiewicz]

I almost forgot...

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[Biker]

I have to agree with Jared on the MT bias of the clip. But on the other hand, it looks like a TKD rules match. I do give the TKD guy credit for getting up after each knock-down (even after the low leg kick that left him limping a little), also he seemed to be slowly adapting to the MT style. As it went on he lasted longer and longer in between knock-downs.

[tigerking]

would have been better to watch a better exponent (someone with better ability to utilise the TKD techniques) vs. a reasonable MT exponent. I thought the MT guy had other opportunities to perform other techniques on that bloke while he had his back turned, and also after he had thrown a body rip there etc in some cases also he could have clinched him. So i didnt think the MT guy was an excellent exponent either to tell you the truth.
The TKD guy had a red belt on anyway (whether that was his ranking or not?), and i mean hey those japanese/korean arts are designed so that their practitioners are hitting some sort of fighting form after black belt, from my perspective anyway. MT you can learn how to reasonably defend yourself after a few months (obviously it still takes years to perfect everything though and become smooth in action, and move better in a fight) So obviously he might not have been the best example of TKD. So im aware of the realistic facts.
It would be good to see all of the fight for sure.
thanks again for that address. catch you all later.

[Rob B]

Unfortunately I really believe this is indicitive of 90% of the TKD practioners in North America and Europe. No use of hands, terrible or non existant footwork, un-practical kicking with no power generation and NO FULL CONTACT SPARRING. Seriously, this guy was running for his life; it was obvious he's never dealt with anything like that before.

The reason he wasn't getting knocked down as much was the fact that he was running and not engaging. Your mindset really changes when you get hit hard for the first time.

[tigerking]

yep very true, you dont really know what to do, or how to deal with pressure in a fight unless you train in a manner which simulates a real fight. and where i do MT we hit each other reasonably hard with all weapons, sometimes it takes me a week to get over a leg kick, bruised more often than not. on the same token i dish out as much as i recieve, and we certainly dont backpeddle, you deflect or catch and try and inflict damage, before your opponent hits you.
ive experienced this before, i spare a 2nd dan black belt in TKD (ITF) not much difference to what i seen in the clip really. but there would be some good TKD exponents out there, that would put up a fight im sure.

[aseepish]

TKD vs MT

I saw plenty of TKD vs MT at my Wing Chun School in Singapore. Most of the new students had a background in that art, it being mandatory in the Singapore Armed Forces (all Singaporean males have to do military service). At this school, everyone cross-trains in Muay Thai. Watching the new guys spar for the first time (some of them are 3rd and 4th degree black belts) is an education.

I don't have to tell you the outcome of these little contests, do I?

-Tony