WWF tougher than no holds barred...

[bobby_steeles]

from reading a lot of posts on here, it seems that a considerable number of people have the impression that a well known nhb fighter can pretty much waltz into the professional wrestling industry if they so choose, but this is not the case.

shamrock was the only nhb fighter to become successful in the wwf, and he was in it since before he got into pancrase. severn was a failure(he also had previous pro wrestling experience), as is tank in wcw. by looking at severn and shamrock's backgrounds, it would make more sense to say that pro wrestlers tend more to cross over into nhb, rather than the other way around. examples of this, success aside, are craig pittman(wcw) in japan vale tudo and tony halme(wwf) in the ufc.

coleman and kerr, two of the biggest names in nhb, both attended tryout camps for the wwf in the past and did not make the cut.

it is MUCH easier to for a martial artist to reach status in nhb than it is in the wwf. the wwf doesn't even look to nhb as a source for developing talent. nhb fighters are simply not big enough names in this country for the wwf to really go after them. they hire professional wrestlers, not professional fighters.

[Edited by bobby_steeles on 10-23-2000 at 04:40 PM]

[Tony10]

Well, if you think about it, what you're really hiring in WWF is really muscular stunt men.

So unless you're trained to take the falls and the variety of other punishment contained in your typical WWF show, your great fighting ability probably doesn't amount to a whole lot?

Thoughts?

[Jaguar Wong]

I was going to say that acting was a prerequisite, cause they gotta be able to work the crowd, as well as rock the mic. But then I thought about guys, like Chris Bennoit, who shouldn't be allowed within 50 feet of a microphone.

Bam Bam Bigelow once tried to cross over into NHB. He lost about 70 lbs of fat, and packed on some muscle, but his first opponent was Kimo. He shot under Bam Bam's strikes right from the get go, and I thought his knees were gonna pop from the takedown. Kimo basically G&P Bam Bam, reminding him that a great pro wrestling career doesn't always translate to NHB.

[L3FTH00K]

i agree

[david a]

Maybe Coleman and Kerr have a hard time being fakes, unlike
Shamrock who is a natural.
Maybe Coleman and Kerr have a hard time talking smack,unlike
Shamrock who is a natural.
Maybe Coleman and Kerr would use there roids in a more productive way?

Maybe... ahh who cares.




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[Martial Artist]

Pro Wreslers arent really Pro anything.They are acters who have muscles.Pro Wreslting is for people(fans) who want to see high flying,body slams,and all that other bullcrap.Mark Hall could wipp Stone Cold's ars!lol!

[royceg420]

Its not easy crossing over to either they both have totally different prerequisites to obtain success. As someone already stated wrestlers are pretty much stunt men who are(or at least should) be good with a mic and have some acting skills(again I repeat should). NHB fighters have to be able to fight. The only real similarity between them is that the participants generally have to be well conditioned and able to take a beating.

As for Mark Hall beating Stone Cold-how do you know, have you ever seen Austin in a real fight?

[bobby_steeles]

yeah, i wouldn't be so quick to say mark hall can whip ANYONE'S ass. anyone who is male that is.

david a wrote:
'Maybe Coleman and Kerr would use there roids in a more productive way?'
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well, they were trying to "use their roids" to become pro wrestlers, but it didn't happen. guess that's not too productive, huh?

did anyone here know that for the first few months shamrock wrestled in the wwf, they were advertising upcoming ufc's during his matches? trying to promote the sport to their viewers and get them to order the ppv?

[Biz]

My views

Is the WWF tougher than NHB? In a sense, yes.

In the WWF you're off only two nights a week (Wednesday & Thursday), you must learn the art of wrestling, which is how to minimize damage.

NHB you fight less often, however in these fights, the goal is to hurt your opponent, opposite of the WWF. The NHB guy's definately get more beat up than the WWF guy's (night for night). The difference is, the WWF guy's have to suck it up and go out there again and again and again!

I say overall the wrestler's go through way more than the NHB guy's. But I think both are great entertainment.

I was going to say both are great sport's, but the definition of a sport is an event where there is genuine competition. In WWF there is not.

[royceg420]

NHB guys may not have to fight every night but what do you think they are doing on their off days?fighting. They train just as much as a wrestler wrestles. Don't you think that's beating them up just as much?

"I'll never take any more punishment in a fight than I've already taken at practice."
-Pete Williams, The Lions Den

[david a]

Bobby-steeles,

I have decided, thanks to you and Fil not to try to add humour to the equation anymore.
People in this post take everything I say way too seriously.

[Biz]

...

***They train just as much as a wrestler wrestles. Don't you think that's beating them up just as much?***

No!

[bobby_steeles]

oh.

that was humor?

[royceg420]

The whole point of pro wrestling is to not hurt anyone and make it look like you are. The whole point of fighting is to hurt people, hmmmmmmm?

[Biz]

Reply

Not quite. The point is simply to minimize the risk's involved. They are still slamming each other on the ring. Yes it's slightly padded, but will still sting and take a lot out of you. Especially if you're doing so at a good pace for 8-16 minutes every 5 days a week.

It's tough.