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  • #46
    Well Bri

    Actually I was training right. If during a fight someone attacks you and you don't react, just how far do you think you will get. When I said nervous wreck I am speaking of when people are within your fighting measure. My level of awareness was very high which was a good thing. How do people get mugged? By not paying attention to their surroundings. It doesn't have anything to do with being in dangerous places. It could happen(at least over here) walking to your car, in the rest room, walking up/down a flight of stairs, even in your front yard. This place over here is crazy--ridiculously so. My aunt was followed home about two months ago.When she got out of the car a guy put a gun to her head and took her purse. For some odd reason you just refuse to grasp this. Our country is not like yours. Certain areas are not quite as bad-say like Beverly Hills-but they have their high profile murders too just not like our ghettos. You know that over here in LA there are certain areas the police will not enter unless absolutely necessary. The gang members walk around with their 'pieces' showing and don't give a damn. The only way it seems, you are going to believe this is to come visit Los Angeles one day. It will be a rude awakening for you and you will never doubt me again.

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    • #47
      Auto - I bet I have seen far more of the US than you. Fancy a competition of naming places? Including LA?

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      • #48
        Fancy a shag?

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        • #49
          No thank you.

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          • #50
            Auto said,
            "What I was actually trying to get across is reaching a point in your training where 'thought' doesn't come into play anymore."

            RESPONSE:
            Well, technically you are right. Quite frankly, I am well trained enough so that I can get into the ring with a pro boxer and roll with any mid-level BJJ blue belt already. But (when that fight happened) I just got blindsided. I am not a clueless person ... but neither am I looking for a fight every second. I whipped the guy my size, but couldn't get passed the second and much larger individual. Quite frankly, had I not had that first fight, and if I would have been hitting the gym, I think I could have whipped Mr Hulk too ... but I just ran into a hard shot when I was already hurt a bit and one fight tired. Again, you can only do so much, as one man, regardless of your skill level.

            Auto said,
            "Drilled actions in response to certain stimuli. That leaves the mind free to analyze what 'tactics' are required to win. Only problem with this is you become a nervous wreck--constantly twitching--automatically ducking/slipping when an arm would come your way--even if it was just a hug from a friend."

            RESPONSE:
            There is no question that repetition is the mother of Habit. There is no question, therefore, that drilling responses eventually makes those responses "instinct," not thought-of. However, right as this is, and true as this is, I just am not into fighting enough anymore to devote that kind of time so as to remain that sharp. I am very confident I can handle 95% of the people I meet. But I also realize that, even trained to the maximum of my potential, I may get to a level of being able to beat 97 or 98 out of every hundred people ... but NO amount of training will ever leave a man 100% untouchable. The simple fact is, no matter how much you know, or are trained, there is always someone who is better-trained, or just a better man, than you. So I am not going to devote my life to being "on edge" all the time. I would rather be casually-confident in the skills I already possess ... avoid going to places where the odds are higher of running into a problem ... and instead carry my Glock to handle the "just in case" possibilities

            Auto said,
            "I even went so far as to kick a buddies' tooth out by accident when he jumped from behind a wall trying to scare me. I was always very aware/alert."

            RESPONSE:
            Well, again, I don't want to work myself up like that all the time. Being a skilled fighter should make you confident, not paranoid, and I believe "too much of anything" is not good.

            Auto said,
            "Now in my upper years too, fighting is a thing of the past. I still workout but the attitude has changed from annihilation to just enjoying life. At our age maybe it is best not to go looking for battles."

            RESPONSE:
            Exactly!

            Auto said,
            "I don't flinch anymore(if someone threw a punch at me now it would probably smack me) cause I don't train like that anymore. My last altercation was almost a decade ago(actually about 8 years) and I am no longer a nervous wreck. Take care of yourself--really."

            RESPONSE:
            LOL, we sound a lot alike. Obsessive/compulsive. When I was younger, I attended UCLA ... but would take a 2 hr bus ride downtown L.A. to box. All I did was live and breathe fighting, think of fighting, and look for fights When I learned of BJJ ... I drove 100 miles one way ... five days a week ... to learn this new art. Day and night, that's all I thought of, practiced, and wanted to do: jiu-jitsu.

            But, now all I do is live out in the country and enjoy my dogs and nature. Life is much better that way!

            Take care yourself too,

            Jack
            Last edited by Pit Dog; 08-05-2002, 05:13 PM.

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            • #51
              That was cute Stitches,As for you Bri

              Boy, you really like to argue with people. Naming places? Any fool can pick up a map. I'm willing to bet that you are a middle to upper middle class caucasian male. And to be honest, as a white man walking through the streets of South Central most likely you would be robbed, beat up or shot. As far as seeing more of this state than me, well, I have lived here in more places than you most likely, from the east coast to the south. And I know the differences in people from state to state. Or maybe you grew up here and moved to the UK??

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              • #52
                Not only have I been to more places in the States than you, as an outsider it was plain to see just how little of the outside world Americans actually know.

                Some classic quotes from Americans I met:-

                "Hey guys! Meet Brian! He's from England, near London."

                "I've never met an Englishman before. Do you speak English in England?" and the all time classic

                "Hey! You're from England! Do you know the Queen?"

                Mind you, that isn't so bad. Knifer thinks we are ruled by a King, because the King gets a mention in the Declaration of Indedepndance.

                Don't get me wrong. I'va always liked Americans. But before you can make comparisons between your country and the rest of the world, a little bit of knowledge of the rest of the world would be an idea.

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                • #53
                  Bri, either you made up those "American quotes" to make us seem dumb, or you were just hanging out with the biggest dipshits here. I honestly can't fathom that many people being that dumb, but then again, I'm also an optimist....

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                  • #54
                    Nope, I didn't make them up. I don't even think those people were "dipshits". But there are those here that have pased judgement on the English and have blatantly shown that they know nothing about the country or it's people.

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                    • #55
                      IS it Bob Green who the call The Godfather of Brittish JKD? If so have you met him Bri Thai?

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                      • #56
                        Nearly right! Its a guy called Bob Breen. He has been around for years, but I havent met him (like the Queen!).

                        I've never heard a bad word said about him though.

                        He's based in London, near England!

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                        • #57
                          Thanks for that,

                          So getting back to the most overated fighter;

                          wushu - Pat Miletch
                          Rubberneck - Christy Martin
                          kid lock - Elvis Sinosic
                          Roy Gaflaer - Rickson Gracie
                          Fighter (me) - Muhummad Ali

                          So Who do you all think?

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                          • #58
                            LMFAO

                            Muhammed Ali ... overrated?

                            Son, how old are you? 21? 23? Your perspective is like that of a newcomer to the planet.

                            How we rate fighters is based on their ACCOMPLISHMENTS *as* fighters ... and Mohammed Ali is the most PROVEN, accomplished fighter of any heavyweight who ever lived!

                            And I hate to burst your bubble, but Bruce Lee is the most UNproven, UNaccomplished fighter of the lot of them ... so hence HE is the most overrated fighter there is. I mean, how can you rate a "fighter" who never had a fight?! LMFAO

                            You are simply too obtuse to understand this.

                            Hey Fighter ... I found your picture on the net ... and a little bio on you as well: Fighter.

                            LOL

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                            • #59
                              If you bothered to understand my previous posts you would realise that I love and respect Ali. Im aware that he was the best, the champ, the greatest... But he is a 1 dimensional fighter. He only boxed. Thats not to say he stunk, he was very good. But he did not know any ground work, kicking skills etc.

                              Bruce Lee, his art (Jeet Kune Do) is made up of over 26 different fighting arts. Just to name a few; Wing Chun, Boxing, Wrestling, Ju-Jitsu... In a real street fight, not a crappy boxing match Bruce was a much better fighter.

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                              • #60
                                "Bruce Lee, his art (Jeet Kune Do) is made up of over 26 different fighting arts."

                                Bruce Lee is somehow a PROVEN fighter because his art is made up of 26 different arts? Even consiidering the rules limitations of boxing, Muhammed Ali still proved more than Bruce Lee did. You have to consider that there are rules in movies also. Bruce Lee was supposed to win those fights and it was written in the script. Then again, he did supposedly beat up some kid in China while filming a movie and beat up some other Kung Fu guy that challenged him in his dojo. I guess we should all be in awe of Bruce Lee's proven exploits.

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