Rorion Gracie is a fraud!!!

[crazyjoe380]

http://www.wtny.com/training.php

http://www.wtny.com/training_chi-sao.php

wt training

i will stick to boxing and jiu jitsu and mt.. gracias!

it's still faster to learn then most martial arts and effective...
and if you aint into tournaments like me. you can 80% of time **** most people on the street cept the 20 percent who are strapped!! lol

[phillyman]

Tape

Where is this tape on the internet posted when Emin beats Rickson?

[tmanifold]

I have seen the video in which Emin Jumps William chueng. it is pretty sad. Emin is a thug. I would like to see the video of Him *beating* Rickson. The only way he could do it is if he jumped him from behind like he did chueng.

Tony

[Ryu (JKD?)]

LOL, there is no video, guys.

Ryu

[phillyman]

??

What you mean not even an attempt to put a guy in a wig to make it look like its Rickson and bad phototshop video editing whats up wit dat

[Martial Artist]

Ryu, if I were you, I would delete my post. It may very well save your life...

[Norm82]

yeah, where is this Emin beating Rorion vid?

[Thai Bri]

Yeah. Where is the Emin beating Renzo video! Yeah! Yeah!

As regards Emin beating Cheung, that was reported widely at the time. Haven't seen the video but, apparently, there are numerous versions about anyway, if you know what I mean.

I did, however, see numerous Willan Cheung articles about how HIS Wing Chun was the "real" WC, and he would willingly take on anyone other martial artist to prove its dominance. And that included any martial artist, not just WC.

Emin approached him with a copy of one of these articles, asked Cheung if he wanted to prove this, and then beat the crap out of him. It wasn't WC style, though. It was ground and pound. At least it shut Cheung up for a while. I was one of millions releived by that......

[Thai Bri]

Forgot to mention. Cheung initially blamed the loss on his Kung Fu slippers not having any tread...... The alternate versions of the video came much later......

[Wearing Grey]

If you guys are interested in the whole Gracie, Emin thing go to

https://www.mcdojo.com

The video is still posted there (I think) along with a whole article on it. There is a interview with Rickson giving his side of what happened.

I do not know if the video is accurate or not. I do not know if the interview is accurate or not either. I really do not have an opinion on this subject....just thought you guys would want to take a gander.

Take care

WG

[Wearing Grey]

ooops, I made a typo, sorry guys.

The last post is about the Emin and Cheung thing.

Sorry for the confusion.

WG

[falcon3624]

I wanna see this video of Rickson getting beat. The only way that guy could hope to beat Rickson is to hit him with a horse tranquilizer dart from 10ft. away and hope it kicks in fast.

[Thai Bri]

I bet an ex Ranger would stand a chance.

Know any?

[jules]

wait this Emin guy supposedly beat the crap out of Rickson?

[jules]

wait i found the "Challenge":


A WORLD-WIDE OPEN CHALLENGE TO THE GRACIE-FAMILY
After having watched your "Ultimate Fighting Championships" held by the Gracie-Family, I cannot find them very "ultimate" but only amusing. These so-called "ultimate fights' may impress laymen or beginners, but in fact they are no more real than the professional Wrestling shows on TV.

What depresses me is that I heard of some rumors that I would not dare to accept your challenge. In fact I have never received any such challenge! Do you want me to appear like a coward? When I talked to Benny Urquidez in Germany, he told me that you people had played him the same dirty old trick for propaganda. Not long ago you even challenged the great man of American wrestling Gene LeBell. A very brave act indeed, since Mr. LeBell is over 60 years old.

Now in the second "Ultimate Fighting Championships"-Show you people even (ab-)used two stupid wing chun-men to perform some funny movements so as to represent "Kung Fu". And at the same time you claimed to have defeated two "wing chun'-fighters in the first bout.

Although I am a WingTsun-Fighter of the Leung Ting WingTsun-System, which is very different from the generic wing chun-style in theory and practice and is highly compatible in ground-fighting, I feel bad that you brothers use these kinds of dirty tricks to put down the late Great Grandmaster Yip Man's other students, their schools as well as other respectable martial arts styles or stylists!

I keep the record of over 300 bare-hand fights and have never been defeated. However, I have never talked bad about my losers and all the other styles. But so as to educate you Gracies to respect the others, my students I hereby turn the tables on you by challenging all you people of the Gracie-Family.

I can send 5 or more fighters from the AWTO to fight the Gracies. If you have more fighters in the Gracie-Family, just inform me and I shall report this to the International Headquarters and we will satisfy you with as many fighters as necessary.

We like the so-called "No rules at all" Game as advertised in your propaganda. No gloves, no time-limit, the person who knocks out his opponent is the winner. This is exactly the way we WingTsun-people fought in China in the olden times. We do not mind fighting you people in the ring set up by your own organization. The only thing that we want is to fight openly, so all the audience, reporters, TV-people and martial artists can see if you can really fight against us. We only want two conditions:

1) We only fight you Gracies. For we do not want to give you the chance to use any helpful idiots to protect you as "shields". So we will only fight you directly and no others!
2) The winner takes all the money. We only want our expenses paid. The rest of the money will all be used for charity.


If you Gracie-brothers dare not to accept our challenge, I do not mind. But remember: Never put down any other martial art styles from now on.