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  • Traditional Jui Jitsu

    I see every one talking about BJJ but I dont hear much about Jui Jitsu . I am a ferm believer in the use of True Jui Jitsu . Does any one out there practice non Brazilian Jui Jitsu or one of its japanese cousins ?

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    jujutsu

    yes i train in traditional jujutsu /aikijujutsu/aikibujutsu the style is Hakuda-ryu as taught by SHINJO sensei. any help i can be just ask if i no ill tell .

    yours in budo............dan

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    • #3
      Yes, I train in Kantan Kyo Jujutsu . It is a mixture of Tae Kyon and Chuan Fa strikes, Chinese Chin Na, and more traditional Japanese Jiujitsu grappling. We also mix in various weapons training and other items of interest when applicable.

      We train full contact with the single overall goal of self-defense.

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      • #4
        i've trained in mushin ryu ju jitsu but i stopped going.. i am thinking about returning...


        not sure yet

        Last edited by crazyjoe380; 09-19-2002, 10:19 AM.

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        • #5
          a FAQ that most of us would like cleared out...

          What r the differences between Traditional Jiu-Jitsu and BJJ?

          Anyone?

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          • #6
            BJJ submission specialists get to wear tight spandex and cool leather gloves. Much nicer than an old baggy yellow gis.

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            • #7
              LOL Szcze... but please, serious answers.

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              • #8
                Here's a completely unhelpful, but straightforward explanation:

                "If you knew anything, you would know."

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                • #9
                  Although my experiences of "traditional" Japanese Jiu Jitsu may not be typical, I thought it was rubbish.

                  It was all "set pieces", where your so-called attacker would step forward with a lame and unrealistic lunge punch, and then he would obligingly leave his arm there while you performed all kinds of impractical but fancy locks and throws.

                  I stuck with it, thinking that it would become more realistic as you progressed. I was wrong. All that happened is that your wrist lockas and takedowns got fancier, and the "attacker" still kept coming at you as if he was your grandmother.

                  The groundwork was a joke. Basically you would fight on the ground a bit, but there was no useful instruction. You just did what you could.

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                  • #10
                    Bri Thai, I agree, that's how it usually is!

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                    • #11
                      Hey Bri I dont know where you learned Jui Jitsu but It sounds lame. we practice all of our locks and throws in a realistic situation. Our sensai calls it the circle of death and for low ranking people its kinda slow but blue belt and up its full contact swings and we do what we are trained to do. We also practice ground fighting about two hours a week but we train to grapple and strike from the ground. We have a couple Of former BJJ students that work out with us and they say its not as good as the BJj system as far as tournaments go but it is much more combat effective.

                      I am sorry you had a bad experience with classical Jui Jitsu but trust me it isnt supposed to be that way.

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                      • #12
                        i just hate that the traditional trains only 2 times a week.. that's gay..

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                        • #13
                          That's the problem.
                          There is no Japanese Jujutsu governing body, the curriculum is not regulated, so it's easy for there to be lots of quacks, just as in TKD and other arts. In BJJ and Judo, there are definite things one must be able to do at each level and quacks would be easily exposed.
                          So with such an art you just take your chances and check out the schools in your area. Most of them will be bs but occasionally you find a qualified and conscientious instructor. I went to see a traditional jujutsu school in my area and was horrified by several things. For starters, a fat and out-of-shape guy wearing a brown belt let me in. The warm up was geared for wussies, no high intensity stuff. The techniques covered, which included all levels at once, were so basic and safely done that there was no way it would work in real life. Then they had "play time" instead of sparring; I saw a 200 lb. man begging for mercy from a 7 year old and had to stop myself from laughing.
                          Ideally, Japanese Jujutsu should be a combination of striking and grappling and should therefore be very similar to MMA training, after all doesn't jujutsu claim to teach throws, grappling, striking, as well as joint locks?

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                          • #14
                            Joey,

                            Forget about jiu jitsu man, you need to train in Hikuta!

                            Check it out......Hikuta


                            These guys will KICK your ASS!


                            As far as good Japanese Jiu Jitsu, that's a hard one. The only one we really have around here is Danzan Ryu and I firmly beleive that (of course) Ours is better than Theirs!

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                            • #15
                              The Chief Instructors of the club I went to formed the "World Jiu Jitsu Federation". There black belts were given a fancy certificate, signed by some top Japanese master.

                              Unfortunately, one of these Black Belts went to Japan to train with this master. Guess what? The master had never heard of the "World Jiu Jitsu Federation".

                              Anyway, the too top geezers in this WJJF did a runner with all the club funds.

                              They were really famous in the UK some years ago. One of them has recently re-emerged in the Martial Arts scene.

                              The cheeky twat.

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