Judo ground fighting vs. BJJ groundfighting

[JUDO Novice]

Hey I'm new to this forum and I just wanted to know what was the difference in the type of ground fighting that BJJ guys vs. Judo guys. And also would it be smart to do BJJ along with Judo so as to become a better grappler because I live close to BJJ academy. What do you guys suggest. Do you guys think its overkill to do two grappling arts that are basically similar.

P.S.
I am doing this mainly for competition and secondly for self defense.

[Ice Phoenix]

Do both! Each will improve your ability in the other, so it would be beneficial to do some of each. BJJ has more complete ground-fighting, as it doesn't rely on controlling the fight from a superior position, such as that reached after a throw. BJJ also doesn't utilise hold-downs as they are fairly impractical. I think BJJ's training is a bit more appropriate for self-defense, but neither is perfect, and it's a tough field of competition in both, so it's up to you!

P.S. Look up David Camarillo for example, a highly successful international level Judo AND BJJ competitor!

[Guest]

Don't do both, DIVERSIFY.

Do your main training in BJJ. Judo has been held back by complex sports rules and a resistance to adapt (although I stil think it is brilliant). Train in a striking art alongside the BJJ. It will offer different challenges and do much more to complement your ability as a street fighter, should you ever be attacked.

[JaredExtreme]

Most of the Judo ground game I have seen is mainly focused on pinning a la scarfhold and then using submissions as a last resort.

[Ice Phoenix]

Exactly JaredExtreme, that's the problem.

[Szczepankiewicz]

I would do both Judo and BJJ. Most Judoka I have worked with prefer standup to ne waza. You only get 25 seconds or so before you get stood up again. The BJJ techniques should really catch some judoka offguard.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Most people have school, work, family, etc...and I can't begin to understand how you would train in two or more martial arts and do weight training/conditioning with other real responsiblities.
Especially if you're new to martial arts, maybe just pick one and see how long you can stick with it. It's hard enought to show the commitment and dedication necessary to become advanced in either of those two arts.
David Camarillo might be a good example of someone who trained in both and is very successful, but he is a professional. How many people are in that category?

[Szczepankiewicz]

Well I am a professional hand model!


You have a very good point. It's hard to balance school, work, and a family without training.

[MrPoopy]

I do a little Judo but mainly BJJ. Jared is right about how the judo guys want to pin you. It's really focused on tournament techniques. It's a lot easier to pin someone for 25 seconds than it is to submit them. I kind of like the tournament aspect of Judo, coz around here there aren't hardly any grappling tournaments. The last grappling tournament close to here was many months ago. It seems like my local Judo club is always going to tournaments on the weekend.

[JUDO Novice]

Thanks for your responds. I've been going to this Judo club for about two weeks now. We train 5 days a week for two hours. We have one day exclusively for ground work we call fight night, and on the other day we do at least 30 minutes of ground work per class. So its pretty balanced class. We have a boxing gym next to the Judo building which looks pretty good. A couple of the Judo guys do two hours of boxing and then come back and do two hours of Judo. I might go that route but for now I want to at least be able to dedicate myself to one thing, and get my conditioning and strength up.