muay thai sucks???

[crazyjoe380]

2years ago i kicked and some fool blocked the same way.. that hurted!!


i couldn't fight after that..


the pain rushed thru my whole body like thunder.. you have to keep kicking the bag..

ive been kicking the bag ever since..lol

[Sphinx]

When i first went to go any study jkd i was not allowed to watch that particular class but i was allowed to come after that class was done to watch another class. That was because the first class was more closed door they deal with weapons and they didnt want people who MIGHT want to join view what goes on. Now that i train there i can see what they do and it aint pretty!

[conach]

Muay Thai sucks?? Un#uckingbelievable!!

Muay Thai... no question, no discussion

The most realistic, the most brutal, the most effective...

But check out if there's Jeet Kune Do or Kali in your area... JKD is a great for self defense, and so is Kali.

Now if your thing is kicking ass, Muay Thai...

Muay Thai...

Yup, Muay Thai...

Later...

[holte2]

hey thanks everybody for their help with this. I am starting muay thai on the 23 of november and you guys have me so pumped up i am reading and watching everything i can get my hand ons in the meantime...

[rocknrollrjm]

I don't know what your training background is or your current level of conditioning but you will get alot more out of your instruction right off the bat if you start getting your cardio and conditioning up NOW, when I say conditioning I mean overall but mainly legs. Run and do ALOT of squats(no weight). This together with staying limber and stretching after will have you well prepared for your introduction to a great art.

Have fun and let us know how your training goes.

[Suzuki_Fanboy]

dont get a bad impression of shaolin kung fu just because one school sucks. that is a very, VERY effective art if you have the time to be dedicated to it (but most of us dont in a modern society) but nobody should diss it like that. it was the first MA.

also (this means nothing, lol) but it got the top spot on the "top 10 martial arts" on TLC...guess who was third...muay thai. (karate was second i think...) but that whole top 10 was messed up...TKD was 7th...HAHA

[terry]

I have no interest in getting into the political hot potato of comparing which art is best. But for me, I think Muay Thai is pretty good. True, it is limited in that it has only 120 odd techniques, and most people only use about 20 of those. But when you look at the training method, you'll realize that they produce fighters. Those guys hit hard, are in shape, are relaxed and can move, get hit and keep their composure.

I'd like to share a couple of anecdotes about Muay Thai (all from people I know personally):

1. A 4 month beginner that we considered stiff and uncoordinated stood toe to toe with a karate black belt and got the best of him.

2. A 14 year old with 1.5 years of Muay Thai under his belt was matched up with a Shaolin black belt that came into our class. The Shaolin guy's meditative postures and steam iron-like breathing were certainly impressive. But when we put on the gloves and had him fight with the boy he got his head handed to him. Several times before we took pity on him and started drilling.

2. A 2 month private student of mine in Muay Thai was attacked by a doberman, turned and kicked the dog to death with one single Thai kick. (I told him he was lucky. But you GET lucky when you train well.)

3. Four 3 months students in Muay Thai got caught in a riot between two opposing teams at a football game. These guys threw 16 Thai kicks and knocked down 16 football players before making their escape.

4. A 3rd year Muay Thai student (a middleweight) compared techniques with a karate black belt. The Muay Thai maintained that a low kick can be good for self-defense. The karate guy maintained that a low kick was just a bad kick. So the Muay Thai guy suggested to the karate guy to try it out on his left thigh. First, the karate guy kicked the Muay Thai guy in the leg. Slight discomfort. When it was his turn to return the favor, the Muay Thai guy, afraid of injuring the guy, asked to put some kind of a pad for him to hold. The karate guy suggested a telephone book. Well, the Muay Thai student Thai kicked the phone book and broke (a compound fracture no less) the karate guy's femur in the process.

Muay Thai is also a good nucleus to grow from. You can take a Muay Thai guy and work with him on Greco, silat or judo throws, and he'll probably be able to get in the position to do those throws pretty quick. If you teach him some stick fighting he'll pick it up because he's used to hitting hard, taking pain and flowing--and he'll probably have some timing. If you teach him to grapple he'll pick that up because he'll be used to paying his dues and workin' his ass off. All in all, I'd say it is a pretty good art to have for a base--even if what you want to do is blend it later on. It is certainly not the only art out there, but it is worth taking a look at.

T

[William]

I used to work with a guy who was a BB in a shaolin/praying mantis kung fu system(His teacher taught both-I don't know the percentage of one to the other). When ever we would talk martial arts he would get a bit snobish about his art. He respected the FMA, but I could tell by his reaction that he thought Muay Thai was pretty low on the totem pole. I have to admit that in light sparring (at work) he was good at parrying punches but the straight knee got him every time. I brought a pair of thai pads into work one day so I could show him a full power thai kick. I let him go first. He was basically throwing snapping kicks that sounded good against the pad but had no power. When it was my turn, I showed him how to hold the pads and then threw about five light round kicks. On the sixth I just let one go full power and knocked him into the wall. After that he braced for it, but he was amazed at the power of the thai kick. One day we were messing around and he tried to throw a round kick which I blocked with my right shin and spun into a left vertical down elbow and stopped with it touching the bridge of his nose. Did that convert him? No. But he did show more respect for it (and quit sparring with me at work).

William

[William]

One day we were messing around and he tried to throw a round kick which I blocked with my right shin and spun into a left vertical down elbow and stopped with it touching the bridge of his nose.

Actually that's a left reverse vertical down elbow.

BTW, I picked that one up from Chalambok. Works every time.

William

[Steelsings16]

Haha that's funny! I'm looking for some classes to go to to see if I'd like them better than my crappy TKD class, and I'm considering Muuay Thai kickboxing or Krav Maga...if thats even how you spell them...Muay Thai sounds cool

[William]

I'm considering Muuay Thai kickboxing or Krav Maga

I'd say go with the Muay Thai. But remember, I'm not biased or anything.

William

[holte2]

thats what i'm talking about...

[mike]

why dont you take both?

The only advantage to taking KM over Muay Thai that I can see is that maybe you would get more eye gouging-type drilling. But for my money Id take Muay Thai. You get in to shape and learn to kick and punch with power and consitency. how can you go wrong?


thanks,

Mike

[dave_UK_MT]

Originally posted by terry
2. A 2 month private student of mine in Muay Thai was attacked by a doberman, turned and kicked the dog to death with one single Thai kick. (I told him he was lucky. But you GET lucky when you train well.)

That a coincidence, I'm 2 months into Muay Thai.

Just yesterday I was in the park with my 2 dogs; one of them is 11 years old (not to quick anymore) and this other dog comes up for a sniff and starts to rag the feck out of my big soft puupy.

So I low kicked the feckin thing in the head (not too hard) and it soon buggered off with its tail between its legs. It happened in a split second and was wierd that I automatically used the technique I've been taught in the gym.

[dave_UK_MT]

Originally posted by Corpsicle
they only thing that scares me about MT is
i saw a fight once where a guy kicked another guy and broke his shin
the guy kicking broke his shin
freakist thing i ever saw

but how often does that happen

I know the clip you mean. That guy must've had some sort of fracture that he didn't know about before the fight. I wouldn't let it worry you.

Our gym had a show the other week though and one of our fighters broke his opponents forearm with a constant barrage of roundhouse kicks. ouch!