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  • #16
    If some one is trying to run at you and tackle you you should try a sweep that is basically an elevator sweep from the standing. You just have to catch his collar & elbow. Fall to the side of the elbow you grab. I have pulled this one off at many tournaments and at the academy.

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    • #17
      Phil

      a quick qs: You said you train from the guard- If your opponent is try to get out either my standing up or getting his hand behind your knee what do you do? I might sound stupid but I would like to know we do grappeling now and then and I was told to pull my knees to my chest put my feet up in his middle and flip him over my head but then I end up in a mess with his lower body near my head and that could result in a nasty kick to the skull any advice
      Thanks

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      • #18
        If some one is trying to stand in your guard their are lots of things you can do. One simple thing is to keep you hand deep in the collar across the body. Take you left over hand and grab the gi bottoms firmly at the ankle(same side as the collar). And now place the same side foot on the hip and push. This will bend you opponent in 1/2. If they try to grab you under you knee from this position circle your foot over the top & put your foot on their bicep. You can really control them from here for sweeps & submissions. This is really basic and easy. Try this & let me know how it works for you. I do lots of things when some one trys to stand, but if you have a hand deep in the collar or on the neck it is easy to keep them down. Keep an under hook while in the guard as well, it helps.

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        • #19
          That move you are talking about works fine if you have a conditioned stomach,& you know how to bump your hips up and really pull on the ankles. It is great for when they are leaning over you. But why not let them lift you in the guard then unlock you legs slide down & re-lock them around their ankles. Then you just have to push them over. If the are trying to stand why not ankle locl them from the guard? These moves are accomplished by my white belts in class.

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          • #20
            Hey thanks Phil

            I will try what you said

            Thanks

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            • #21
              Let me know how it goes. - www.austinjj.com

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              • #22
                GRACIEAUSTIN, what belt are you?

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                • #23
                  GRACIEAUSTIN, what is a reverse armbar from the guard? I'm not sure I know this armbar. Please give me a link to this technique if it's posted somewhere.

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                  • #24
                    I am a purple belt with one stripe under Relson Gracie. Here is my fighter profile: http://www.bloodlinefightwear.com/phil.html . A reverse arm bar is when you catch the persons wrist with your shoulder and chin turn side ways and put pressure on the elbow from pushing down with the palm of your hand on the tip of their elbow and you push down to the mat. In a real fight you could palm strike the arm & break it. Use your knee to push down on the shoulder so you don't have to push down on the elbow much with your hand. I used this move at the Pan-Ams this year.

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                    • #25
                      I am trying to set this move up from right here: http://www.austinmartialarts.com/graciejiujitsu.html in the picture. I don't quite have the arm yet, but you can get the idea.

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                      • #26
                        I think i've seen something like that armbar before, but it looks like you're setting up a lot different. The few times that I've seen it, they were kind of scooping the arm up as they attempted a guard pass, trying to push your knee down. His shoulder would be secured with your knees and you'd be kind of on his side. Hard to explain. The technique hasn't been taught to me.

                        The guys in my class say that those kind of armbars are difficult to use.

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                        • #27
                          Very good article

                          Hi Phil

                          No arse licking but I think you know what you are talking about and again thanks for the advice
                          Would like to have you in put on this article

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                          • #28
                            No arse licking involved, the move works. I reverse arm barred Malcom Alhoi, he is a team mate of mine I fought in the Internationals last year. He won the Absolute Div. of the Arnold & many other tournaments He was 327 when I had to fight him. I also used it at the Pan-Ams. It works. It is best if your hips & knees are over the top of the arm you are trying to bar.

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                            • #29
                              Your article is interesting. I agree with some of your points and understand where you are coming from. But if I am going to really hurt some one in a fight (of course I will strike every way I know how) I will bring them to the ground. Kind of like when a shark gets a seal, they drag it down where it can't breath & rip it to bits. If I get some one on the mat ( in my guard, where ever) that means I get to break their joints. What better way to hurt some one? After you break one joint it is easier to break another & another & another till they can't move & then you could choke them till they die & beat them till they are dead. Note that in my last 4 MMA matches were under 2 minutes. That's pretty short work if after your first submission your opponent is messed up enough to easily hurt more. I don't go around hurting people but if I had to I think the ground is just as good as any place to do it.
                              As far a battle not being a good place to grapple? Well I was in the Marine Corps and one of my jobs was I taught the Marines how to shoot. I think the best weapon to get some one is a gun or explosive device of some type. My second option would be poison. But fire arms and chemicals aside I think the ground if a great place to use a knife or stick. In order to hurt some one with such an object don't you have to be close to them? You forget, if some one is skilled on the ground they are almost always going to be in the better position and 5 moves ahead. And their opponent is going to wear out first. AS far as curbs & obstructions, well if you are better on the ground that means that more than likely you are better at take downs. So you get to take your opponent down onto the objects you were worried about bottles curbs ect. This alone could end the fight for you. I think that because you don't grapple as much as lets say one of Relson's top competitors you views will be much different. If I were to need to kill some one (self-defense) It would be really easy to apply a choke and hold it. How hard is that? You should go tell Relson that the ground isn't the best place to hurt some one, I am sure you will feel different about that in just a minute or two. Where do you grapple at? AS far as multiple opponent fighting, their is a time & place for the ground in this situation. I would rather show any one interested in person. It would take way too long to go over. Ask any of my students about fighting more than one person at a time. We practice that standing & on the ground. Or better yet go train with Relson, it will be a life changing experiance for you. I am sure of that. I had a student once that told me he was writing a book on "how not to end up in the guard" So I tapped him from the guard 15 times in a row. I never heard about the book again.

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                              • #30
                                Hey Phil

                                Thanks for your input, I had nothing to do with the article a friend of mine found it on the net and sent it to me, I believe that you have to have a balance between being on the ground and standing, I just wanted a pro's input on this thanks

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