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  • NAJJFDAVE
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    Re: So, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu (GJJ) vs. BJJ, they are different but how?

    Originally posted by akja
    Carlson Gracies instructor was his father, Carlos Gracie!
    But not his only instructor.

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  • akja
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    So, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu (GJJ) vs. BJJ, they are different but how?

    Not to dis Helio and his sons intentionally but the best GJJ fighters to come out of their camp are the Gracies themselves. I haven't seen anything close to that from their students. Although some are great in thier own right but I'm talking percentages.

    Carlson Gracie on the other hand, was a top fighter and has produced many of the top BJJ fighters, sport and Vale Tudo. And also created probably the best fight team of our generation.

    I know that the story goes that "most of the Gracies" trained under Helio at one time or another but you have to give credit where credit is due! Carlson Gracies instructor was his father, Carlos Gracie!

    http://www.bjj.org/family.html

    Helio has said that there are good and bad BJJ instructors. I think that sums it up pretty good!

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  • JaredExtreme
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    NaffDAVE, you need to be more sensitive to sarcasm.

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  • akja
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    It is hard to compare to the Gracie Academy. I was able to learn from Joe Moreira because he was coming up to San Jose every 2-3 months to teach his student. Roy Harris also came up every few months for the same reason. It was great exposure but it was far from "weekly"! History will tell us, you pay for what you get! But don't get scammed! Do your research!

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  • NAJJFDAVE
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    Originally posted by JaredExtreme
    Muddy water has more nutrients than clean water.
    So, you're saying that your average $50 a month BJJ school(often headed by a seminar promoted purple belt) offers BETTER instruction than what you can get at the Gracie Academy?


    Jared buddy Please! Are you trying to convince yourself of that?

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  • jhinds
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    Well, someone bought the marketing.

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  • JaredExtreme
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    If it's one of those "Minnesota Martial Arts" chains, I would be careful. There is one in Seattle that offers all those styles in one location, but only about 2 instructors. And c'mon how adept can two guys be at 5 different martial arts?


    You get what you pay for.

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  • platinum_angel
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    Originally posted by JaredExtreme
    You want to know the real difference between GJJ and BJJ.??
    GJJ is about $80 more a month.
    the school i will be going to will offer JKD, MT, Kali, and BJJ. $50 dollers a month for bjj

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  • JaredExtreme
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    Muddy water has more nutrients than clean water.

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  • NAJJFDAVE
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    Originally posted by JaredExtreme
    You want to know the real difference between GJJ and BJJ.??

    GJJ is about $80 more a month.


    A nicely prepared steak costs more than hamburger.
    Last edited by NAJJFDAVE; 12-30-2002, 10:58 PM.

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  • JaredExtreme
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    You want to know the real difference between GJJ and BJJ.??











    GJJ is about $80 more a month.

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  • akja
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    You are right! I trained under one of Joe Moreiras students who now is a black belt. Joe's BJJ is pure, comes down a slighly differant line though.

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  • NAJJFDAVE
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    Originally posted by GRACIEAUSTIN
    So where you trying to make Helio's point or find out if their was a differance between the two types of Jiu-Jitsu?
    I thought I kind of did both...maybe not. I'm certianly no expert...I'm just a guy with an opinion.

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  • GRACIEAUSTIN
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    So where you trying to make Helio's point or find out if their was a differance between the two types of Jiu-Jitsu?

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  • NAJJFDAVE
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    Originally posted by akja
    True, but gracie jiu-jitsu is brazilian jiu-jitsu and Helio has been quoted several times as saying that all brazilian jiu-jitsu came from him. But I do understand your point in the differant brazilian jiu-jitsus!
    Helio Gracie's point is that he is the source for all BJJ, and BJJ is not the source for Gracie Jiu-Jitsu.

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