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Well, why not utilize the vast resources of the posters here and your experience? Here's the question:
Think of all the street fights (bar fights, whatever--non-sport fights) you've ever seen. If you had to say on average--if there is an average--how you think the typical fight goes down, what would it be? Hand to hand; no knives or weapons.
Do you believe the Gracie mantra that 90% of all fights go to the ground? Is there a different philosophy that you adhere to?
Two things inspired this: 1) a self-defense seminar by Dion Ricardo in which the VERY FIRST thing you are trained to do is counter the BIG RIGHT, which he correctly states is the most common weapon for your opponent. It sounds basic until you think about how many martial arts don't even address this quite simple and most common attack. 2) John Bennett mentioned on some other thread how a lot of fights usually start with the two trading blows, until one starts getting the worst of it and at that point he will attempt to clinch.
In my experience, both out and around and working at bars part-time for eight years, here's my top three
1) As John said, the blows start until one guy starts eating them at which point he will attempt to tackle the other guy. I have actually sometimes seen the tackling guy then beat the crap out of the guy even though he was off to a bad start! I've seen this most of the time.
2) Maybe it's a Chicago thing, but the "hockey fight." Grab the guys clothes with the left, pound with the right. I laugh when I see these because the counters are so numerous, yet nobody knows them apparently, so they eat punches.
3) Finally, the pushing contest which turns into a tackle. Shove, shove, shove until a clinch and then to the ground.
These are the most common but certainly not the only.
It will be interesting to see when this is done if we all end up saying the same things. Then you can ask yourself: am I trained to deal with [whatever attack scenarios we decided are most common]?
Try and keep 'em short and sweet.
Think of all the street fights (bar fights, whatever--non-sport fights) you've ever seen. If you had to say on average--if there is an average--how you think the typical fight goes down, what would it be? Hand to hand; no knives or weapons.
Do you believe the Gracie mantra that 90% of all fights go to the ground? Is there a different philosophy that you adhere to?
Two things inspired this: 1) a self-defense seminar by Dion Ricardo in which the VERY FIRST thing you are trained to do is counter the BIG RIGHT, which he correctly states is the most common weapon for your opponent. It sounds basic until you think about how many martial arts don't even address this quite simple and most common attack. 2) John Bennett mentioned on some other thread how a lot of fights usually start with the two trading blows, until one starts getting the worst of it and at that point he will attempt to clinch.
In my experience, both out and around and working at bars part-time for eight years, here's my top three
1) As John said, the blows start until one guy starts eating them at which point he will attempt to tackle the other guy. I have actually sometimes seen the tackling guy then beat the crap out of the guy even though he was off to a bad start! I've seen this most of the time.
2) Maybe it's a Chicago thing, but the "hockey fight." Grab the guys clothes with the left, pound with the right. I laugh when I see these because the counters are so numerous, yet nobody knows them apparently, so they eat punches.
3) Finally, the pushing contest which turns into a tackle. Shove, shove, shove until a clinch and then to the ground.
These are the most common but certainly not the only.
It will be interesting to see when this is done if we all end up saying the same things. Then you can ask yourself: am I trained to deal with [whatever attack scenarios we decided are most common]?
Try and keep 'em short and sweet.
At least in my case it does.
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