Ever get scared of killing someone in a streefight?

[The Colonie Crusher]

Does anyone here ever get scared that they might go too far one day and kill someone in a streetfight? Like beating a man to a bloody pulp after he's KO'd or punching someone so hard in the temple that they die right on the spot?

I'm talking more scared that you might go to prison rather than actually being scared of killing the person. That's why I make sure that when I do throw down, it's absoloutly necessary and I go "for the jugular".

Also, does anyone here know the state laws for killing someone in a streetfight? Murder/manslaughter/justifiable homicide?

[Ryu (non-working password]

Um, never been afraid of KILLING anyone in a streetfight...

But I think being scared of going to jail detours me a little bit I have a perfect record, and don't want to mess it up It's just not me.

Ryu

[SweepEm]

I am not a lawyer and laws do vary state to state, but if you find yourself in a confrontation and you kill the person, I believe that if you felt that your life was threatened/in danger, it MIGHT be justified if you killed your confronter.

Am I afraid of killing someone in a street confrontation?

NO.

Am I afraid of going to jail?

I believe everyone should be.

As they say, "better to be judged by twelve than carred by six."

[L3FTH00K]

I have had about 35 street fights and fortunately won them all. From my experiences I have always remained calm during my fights and never had the intensions of permanately hurting anyone. I learned how how to groundfight at an early age and when I was 15 I decided to also learn how to box.( I'm 27 now )

Out of my 35 street fights I have only lost my cool 1 time. I got in an altercation with one guy where he tried to blind by forcing his fingers in my eye. I just remeber loosing my cool and I finally got him in a rear naked choke. He passed out and in a fury of rage I did not let go of the hold untill my friend told me to stop.

Looking back at that incident I was so fortunate that I did not kill him. In fact thinking about that fight still gets me shaking sometimes. Before that particular fight I was always ready to get in a fight. I mean I would NEVER start one but I would never turn one down when I was confronted.

Well that fight happened about 5 years ago and that was the last time I got in a street fight. Now if I'm ever confronted with any altercation I just turn around and walk away. I still think what would happen if my friend was not there to break the fight up. Would I still be choking him even after he was out. Anyway I knew in my heart I was defending myself against him but it would never justify permanately hurting someone.

[Maxximus]

that's the last thing I worry about

For the rest of my life, if I were to get into a fight I know that it'll simply be a matter of life and eath. In a situation like that I'll simply worry about not letting MYSELF get killed! Whatever happens in order to prevent that is not my concern. But no, I'm not a monstrously strong brute with Mike Tyson strength and I'm not a Kali freak who keeps sharp knives in his back pocket either. I'm an average college student whose favorite pass time is practicing martial arts and working out. I hardly think that qualifies me as a deadly weapon. Can I defend myself? I would think so. Am I capable of killing with my bare hands without intention to do so? I highly doubt it.

I really do not think its something to worry about because in all honesty, a street fight is not something most of us should even be concerned about. 99% of streetfights I've seen are nothing more than the result of a lot of crap talking between drunk fools who think someone looked at them funny. I may have done a bit hell raising in High school, but I don't think I'm insecure enough to even get drawn into something like that right now. As long as you're not dumb enough to get into stupid brawls, you don't need to worry about going to jail for seriously injuring some moron. If you seriously injure them in an unprovoked life or death situation, I don't think our law system is unfair enough to punish you for it.

[Evilution]

If it were just an average street fight over nothing, I don't think I'd lose control or worry about killing the guy, on purpose or on accident. But if I was fighting for one of my loved ones, that would be different. I think if someone attacked my best friend, it would be hard for anyone to stop me from tearing them limb from limb.

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

To be honest I'd be scared to death to streetfight in its purest form. One on one confrontations are what Im familar with and Im not scared of at all. I hope i never get into a streetfight, I rather keep my fights in the ring or make sure that in any confrontation I'd keep it one on one. As long as I dont do anything stupid like stomp on their head or keep a choke going past 3 min. Im not worried about killing them.

[John Bennett]

Part of being a martial artist is being able to use only the amount of force necessary to win the fight.

It comes with the territory. If you kill someone in a street fight, it has to be justified.

A friend of mine was a golden gloves boxer. He knocked a guy out with one punch in the parking lot of a bar. The guy fell back and hit his head on the bumper of a car. The guy got brain damage and is now a comatose vegetable.

My friend went to the penetentiary for a short time and will spend the rest of his life making payments on the civil judgment the guy's family won against him.

[The Colonie Crusher]

WOW!!!!

Good comments! All of you, I mean that.

John Bennett: Did your boxer friend start the fight? How much time did he serve in prison?


L3FTH00K: Lucky for you, you let go. I kind of went through the same thing one time.

Thanks for the replies guys!

[Jimmy23]

my first fight as a bouncer I and a guy rolled down some steps,he landed on the bottom and made a loud smack,laid there with his head at a funny angle and didnt move.Thats fear guys,luckily he had just been knocked out,not killed.
One of my last fights as a bouncer I got jumped by 2 guys,a biker nearby bashed one for me,i got the other in a semi-choke(instead of a true choke,I drove the inside of my forearm bone into his trachea while i was behind him and squezed like hell).Well when I finally let go he crapped all over himself,snot and goo was coming out of his nose and mouth and he couldnt breathe,and tears streamed down his face.I was in horror that i had crushed his trachea and was witnessing his death by suffocation.Luckily he was able to get air after a minute or so.
First of all,I still have nightmares about this,call me a punk if you want but seeing that was a terrible experience that I hope never to repeat.Yes he jumped me but that didnt make it any easier.
Secondly,for a minute I could see myself getting convicted on a manslaughter charge.Not a happy thought there.
theres no pride in telling this guys.Some technicques,esp chokes,are extremely dangerous when one is angry and /or scaredthere is a responsibility to use your skill wisely.

[Patterson]

If you knock someone out they could fall back and hit their head on the concrete.

[Underdog]

When I was a teen I was involved in a car accident with those guys involved with the sardinian mafia; thy where shouting all kind of insults to me; I was outside my car and two girls were inside it. At a time one guy shouted something like "WANNA EAT LEAD ASSHOLE" and reached for his car's glove compartment. Thing kinda blurred and I tought "aim at the head, if he misses he'll kill the girls"at the same moment I reached for my 38 in a shoulder holster and draw it. Everyone and everything just frozed up; the guy hide behind the seat and the other started the car and they left at warp speed. I never remembered exactly the scene but the girls told me that my hand BLURRED into drawing the gun; at the time I was really trained so one wrong move and the guy would be history. Another time in my shop I was arguing with a drunk when he reached for his front pocket; I drawed my glock and shoved hard in his mouth, broking his incisives; when police did come he shouted that I was menacing him with a toy gun. Thank god I keep my finger outta trigger until I'm in a good stance.

Last year, on new year eve, a drunk entered my shop and start harassing me and my co-workers, I did a jab-cross and the latter hit him hard on the throat: I freaked out 'cause he went straight to the ground, but he then stood up and screamed, so I did beat the crap otta him; I must have elbowed him from the mount at least a dozen times...

This is a thing that freak me alot: I discusse this on another thread; thanks to unpleasant past experiences I must be pushed really hard into a fight but when I start I go for the kill, ever. I NEVER remember too well what happen when I fight, only small images very confused. One time a past co-worker, fired because of tefth in workplace, flipped the finger to my mother, I hunted him until I caught the guy seated in a bar: I did a thai kick to his head that sent him to the ground and left: later on his friend carried him on e.r., it resulted that his ear was almost dislodged, if the chair he was seated on didn't roll with him I would have broke his neck.
He was treated with 30 stitch points and he sued me: I went on trial two times but the secon time he pulled off charges.

I visited his family with some real ugly friends....

Shit happens, guys, everytime and everywhere.

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

Yes u are a CRAZY mofo

[rockinronnie]

A man can be killed very easily. A punch to the temple can do it. It is a scary thing.

We all are only human. We are not invincible.

The human body is so amazing. It can sustain such tremendous punishment (as witnessed in numerous NHB, kickboxing and boxing matches), and at other times, it only takes that "one punch" or "one kick" to put an end to it.

This is why when we are all in our gyms, clubs, dojos, dojangs etc, and we are sparring or rolling with our peers, or with opponents of less experience than ourselves, we must use caution and not intently try to inflict extreme punishment.

Obviously, when your life is put into danger, it's a different story. Use judgement wisely.

Ronnie.

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A straight arm's still a broken arm - Master JPF

[John Bennett]

CC, My friend didn't start the fight. It was kind of a mutual thing.

He spent 8 months in the pen. The whole business was really tragic. He's really a nice guy. It's just that he's ugly as sin and doesn't take guff off anyone.