what are HKD punches

[ramus]

what art do they resemble?

[Guest]

Croquet.

[Grape_Ape]

Use alot of mallets do they?

[H@pkid0ist]

It depends on wether it is a traditional Hapkido school or a Karate infuinced one. TKD, Karate influinced schools can have diferences in how they punch from traditional ones, but also do have many of the same strikes as well. Many karate based schools do reverse punches. In a traditional school that is not taught. In my school our strikes are Boxing, Wing Chun and Muai Thai influinced. We still have ridge hands, knife hand, spear hand and many of the other different types.

[Guest]

No offence hapkidoist, but if "In my school our strikes are Boxing, Wing Chun and Muai Thai influinced", then you are doing elements of Boxing, Wing Chun and Muay Thai.

Who remmebrs Kimo in UFC 3? He claimed to represent TKD, and then proceeded to wrestle........

[H@pkid0ist]

That is Hapkido. It is influinced by the aspects of many different systems. We do not do everything the same as these systems do, but we do have simularities to many systems. But we are not exactly the same, otherwise we would be doing these systems. We pull the best from other styles and make it our own. Also Bri. remember that being influinced by or being simular to is not the same as being. I hope all this sounds right. I'm having a bit of time typing this. Been a long day.

[Typhoon]

Hapkido punchies are pretty much what the instructer wants them to be that is depending on what styles he learned before that and what he thinks is effective.

[Guest]

Hapkidoist - No offence, but that doens't cut the mustard for me. Hapkido is Hapkido, Karate is Karate etc.etc.etc. They do all have different "styles", but you know what I mean.

Of course anyone is free to change their training and techniques in any way that they want to. But training in different arts is training in different arts. It is meaningless to keep calling it Hapkido.

The only real exception to this is JKD, as that was the actual point of JKD.

[eXcessiveForce]

it's funny though,

I never liked Bruce Lee or anything about him. But in my training I was always adding techniques that I found useful from other people. I never stopped doing TKD and I never studied Boxing, But all the punches I have done for sparring and such were boxing styles punches, but I am not a boxer. The kicks I learned were TKD but some kicks would be called Muay Thai kicks now. Some ground work I do would be called BJJ.

I came to naturally try to find new ways to do things sometimes I learned something and thought it sucked but then changed it a little and liked it. Later I found out this was in a different system.

when I first started working on JKD we found out that many of the techniques that I did were used in JKD but I didn't know anything about JKD or even the styles that influenced it. And here I thought I had come up with them on my own.

The point is any good martial artist will try to improve what they do. So Hapkido will adapt, JKD will adapt.

I doubt there is any art out there that is not mixed of other arts.

TKD is influenced by Karate, Tang Soo Do.

Karate often teaches one type of punch but uses others in application.

If i were to tell you I use kicks that work on the fluid shockwave principle. you wouldn't probably have a clue what the hell I was talking about but If I say I do muay Thai Style kicks you probably would.

Same thing with boxing If i say a left hook versus some obscure name from kung fu you get a better picture of what I am referring to.

[Guest]

I suppose all the arts have to be connected, but that is not purely because of cross training. It is because the human body is so limited. Just how many different front kicks can there be? They're all going to look a bit similar........

But I still don't think it valid for people to defend their art when, in reality, they're using the arts of others. Why would they have to do this if their art was really worthy of the acclaim they give it?