Judo -- self defense

[Szczepankiewicz]

Initial Post:

Judo and bjj are both taught in the military. Therefore there must be some good points to it that can be used for self-defense.

Follow up post:

I did not say that Judo and BJJ are the basis for the military hand to hand combat training although I did say there were some techniques included from both.

I must have missed that key post where you thoroughly explained your point. I think I was confused with all the name calling and other interesting commentary.

You went from saying: Judo and bjj are both taught in the military.

to:I did say there were some techniques included from both.

Your contradictions are confusing me...

What is this... make it up as we go along day?

Why didn't I get the freakin' memo?

Is it because I'm a small pricked bastard? That's discrimination man! Yama, back me up on this!!

If the military has the market cornered on the "ultimate" fighting style when is the video coming out?

Do you honestly think they would send us out there to defend the country without knowing how to fight if we ran out of ammo?

Perhaps you're just too dangerous to be out walking amongst the civilian population?

Just promise me you won't dispatch a black op on my ass... pretty pretty please?

[falcon3624]

Mr. Spanky you are a very annoying person today. When I say that Judo and BJJ and taught in the military and then I say that some techniques from the 2 are taught that means the same thing. There is no one system that is taught strictly to the military but it is a system that is based on many different systems. Some things are taken from judo, bjj, hapkido, aikido, tkd, kung fu, karate, and many other martial arts. Hand to hand combat is a culmination of many parts of different arts combined into one. We might take the grappling of bjj then add the throws of judo and then the striking of tkd or mt. In the end the whole point is to have a soldier that can not only strike effectively but throw and grapple as well and can fight with various weapons. When I say that the military combined everything to make an "ultimate" fighting style I put "ultimate" in quotations because they beleive they have taken the best parts of every art and put them together to make just that..........the perfect combat art.........

Why don't you go find an army ranger or green beret and go pick a fight with them and see how it comes out.........

[Szczepankiewicz]

You know, if I didn't think you were my friend, Falcon, I don't think I could bare it.

Golly gee whiz Falcon, I'm just tryin' to make heads or tails of your riddles...

Being annoying is what common patriotic yet, small pricked bastards, such as myself, do best.


If you'd have made yourself clear in your first post then we could have avoided all this silly unpleasantness...

So just so I get you straight, when you post on a topic, then call me names, and post something different on the topic I'm supposed to use my intuitive logic skills and figure out what the **** you're trying to say?

Even Tom Yumsfelt isn't that good... How you 'spect me to keep up? Perhaps you should dumb it down for me, eh?

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Ok, to sum up: The US Military uses skills from each art and combines them into an 'ultimate' fighting style that really isn't an 'ultimate' fighting style, just a comglomeration of known arts (sounds kinda sorta like Jeet Kun Do, type 1 each) whence they use only certain parts of Judo, BJJ, and only the most deadly techniques of TKD, Hapkido, Tai Chi, etc...


And to demonstrate Falcon's elusively confusing point, Spanky is supposed to go pick a fight with a Ranger (Rangers lead the way, Huah!) or a Special Forces soldier?

Just wanna make sure I get my facts straight on this one...

[falcon3624]

Maybe I should have explained myself better in the first post but I am work and was trying to type up something fast. I don't think that the special ops hand to hand combat is the "ultimate" fighting style even though that's the way they view it. I would have to say that it is very devastating though. It is very fast paced and keyed in on destroying your enemy as quickly as possible (with one strike or move if possible). Most guys that serve in specail ops division are excellent hand to hand fighters because they spend alot of time practicing with these parts of all these different styles.

I rely alot on what I learned going through the hand to hand course when it comes down to a street fight and I have not found another single style that can compare to the speed and effectiveness of military hand to hand combat.

[Michael Neal]

"Yeah right, like I didn't train to break hold"

Ok you try and break the Judoka's grip and elbow him in the back, all you will accomplish (if by some miracle you actually pull this off) is piss him off more and he will make sure you take the worst fall possible.

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz

Huah!

*HOOAH!!!!

[Szczepankiewicz]

but I am work

Me at work too. You slow down GI. You do better job...


Who? Us?

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz


Me at work too. You slow down GI. You do better job...


Who? Us?

I am not a GI anymore

[Szczepankiewicz]

break the Judoka's grip

I break Judoka's grip all the time. Especially in Judo class. Not really a big deal....

If you can get it from my kung-fu grip, then you can come and have it, okay? Otherwise, step off, bitch.

We all know that the 'Kung Fu' grip is much harder to break than the 'Judo' grip...




Newbies silly... Newbies make Spanky laugh...

[Michael Neal]

I break Judoka's grip all the time. Especially in Judo class. Not really a big deal....

Sure but it is not as easy as he makes it seem, well I will just break his grip and elbow him in the back, yea maybe but that is a very big maybe.

and you are a Judoka not a striker, a striker would have a much bigger problem breaking the grip.

[Szczepankiewicz]

I am not a GI anymore

You can take the soldier out of the Navy, but never the Seaman out of the soldier.

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz



You can take the soldier out of the Navy

I was in the Army thats where real soldiers go!!!!

[Szczepankiewicz]

In the Army? I thought that was where they sent you when you had a low GT score...

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz
In the Army? I thought that was where they sent you when you had a low GT score...

Na, since they started having to let gays in the military they ask you when you sign up. Fags go to the Navy, bi-sexual goes to the marine, and if you are heterosexual you get sent to the army.

[falcon3624]

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz
In the Army? I thought that was where they sent you when you had a low GT score...

and by the way I scored 98 out of 100