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Yes Tiger69, I understand your point. If their style is so reality based however, could you show me some evidence that they have students or teachers that have been proven successes in recent NHB or MMA to the extent Vitor Belfort has been? Please reconsider some of your beliefs regarding the Gracies. They have been extremely clever at marketing and creating their own legendary status and I was once too, a blind follower.
By the way, I'd say a student of Renzo Gracie's would be much better suited for MMA than those of Torrance, and better suited for everything else as well as a matter of fact.
Ronin, you can never spoil my fun. Try if you can. And as far as showing respect on you, no problem. I would if you would. You are the one that started the insult by calling me a troll. If you take that back and never call me any names, I'm all cool. I've only stated my opinion, I don't expect everyone to agree with me but that's just the way I believe. If you don't like it, fine. If you want to debate me, I'd be happy to accept. Just don't start insulting people. Okay my friend?
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