What prepares you for the street better?

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

Damn, I'm disapointed

So much for the Bushido code of honor. Sounds like a double standard, swearing to abide by one thing but doing another. (ie. killing a preteen or a gang of men jumping one lone ronin.

[Ronin]

YeLLa:

Don't take it so hard! Don't judge all the samurai by Musashi either - like I said, he was kind of a sociopath, but a very smart one. He knew how to fight, and win. He was a killer.

You can use his principles for good, if you are clever.

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

Damn straight he was a sociopath! I wouldnt want to face him or smell him.

[The Colonie Crusher]

I would say boxing (and NO, not because I am an amateur boxer!) Here's why:

1) The boxer is used to taking more severe punishment than the MMA. He is used to getting his face punched in and his body banged up. Therefore if he gets hit with a "streetfighter's" punch or a bat or a bottle, he will be better conditioned.

2) The boxer is in better cardiovascular shape than the MMA. I have done both boxing and BJJ. Boxing is ALOT, let me repeat, ALOT more tiring than BJJ.

3) The boxer has a better chance against multiple attackers. (I'm sure you all knew that)

4) The boxer has a better chance against somebody with a knife.

5) When you are fighting somebody HUGE, the boxer will always have a "puncher's chance". Anyone who has ever grappled knows that when somebody outweighs you by ALOT, it's no picnic rolling with them. Same applies if you try to beat a steroid monster in a ground fight in the street. You're better off trying to knock him out or kick him in the ****ing balls.

That is why I say boxing is better. However, if you know the best of both worlds, it's even better. I say to become an all around comfortable street fighter, YOU MUST LEARN GRAPPLING!!!!!!! You can be the best puncher in the world, if a big guy takes you down, you better atleast have an understanding of the guard to survive and reverse or get back on your feet.

[The Colonie Crusher]

Hello?

Anyone care to comment?

[Evilution]

I'd say the best way to prepare for the street is to be a MMA with a strong boxing emphasis. I try to train that way and I emphasize cardio and a strong chin. I do BJJ and Muay Thai and greco wrestling, but my overall training emphasis is on punching my opponent in the head. I think that a lot of times the KO is just more efficient than a submission. But you have to be well rounded, and be functional in all ranges.

[Fenris]

That samurai code of honour and fighting fair is just as much of a mycth as chivalry and King Arthur.

[Maxximus]

thanx for the input guys...what do you think of this...

IMO, a WELL TRAINED MMA'er who has a good emphasis in punching/boxing skills and can take a punch will be better prepared. I think that usually, one major advantage the boxer will have is that he can take a hard punch and lots of punishment whereas many casual mixed martial artists will tend to have glass jaws. In a streetfight against your average thug, I feel that a well trained MMA'er's punching skills will be more than adequate to mount an effective attack. I've seen fights where guys get knocked silly by awkward, untrained punches. You don't exactly have to be a golden gloves champ to be able to put a guy out in a streetfight. Plus, many of the punching strategies in MMA seem more practical and applicable to a non boxing situation to me than strategies for the boxing ring are. Unless the boxer takes the guy out immediately with his initial fury, he might be in trouble. A streetfight is not two guys staying in long range and punching range probing each other for headshots. Most fights will involve clinching and grabbing and will not be limited to the range where boxing is effective. If the fight goes into the clinch or to the ground, the boxer will probably be confused whereas a good MMA'er will know to immediately get good positioning or start attacking from the plum. The situations an MMA'er trains for (or at least should be training for) are more reflective of the variety of circumstances that can occur in a streetfight. So anywayz, i think that an MMA'er who knows how to deal with wild punches and is strong enough to effectively return strikes will be better prepared. The key things you have to remember are
1) to be well conditioned enough to take punishment
2) as Evilution said, you have to have your punching skills well emphasized.
3) you must train yourself adequately in how to deal with a flurry of wild punches. Too many MMA'ers spend so much time working on countering complex ground submissions while they are not even properly prepared to deal with simply street style attacks.

My 2 cents...if you care to argue otherwise, I'm listening.

[duchman]

bjj=not mma!

[Underdog]

Sorry guys, but you have missed the point here.

Your posts are typical of people without knowledge of streetlife. IMHO the best preparation for fighting in the street is KNOWLEDGE.

Think about it:

A guy approach you while you are minding your own business walking down the main street.

You KNOW that the man had sweared to waste you because you have friends on the streets that have told you so.

You KNOW that he's likely not alone, scanning the street you see two other guys you know are in business with him.

You KNOW that he has a knife concealed because he had tried to scare a hooker some time ago, the same hooker frequent the same drugstore you do, you have listened her telling the story to an employee here.

The guy changes direction and start coming toward you...

You slide a sharpened screwdriver you held with you just in cause you need it (it's no weapon, easy to explain to cops) and hold it concelead behind your forearm in reverse grip.

The moment he do his move you beat him on the draw and stick the shank in wathever point you decide, more or less lethal depending on situation, then rapidly but not ruinning leave the area, keeping an eye for the guy's friends.

Moral: NO BOXING NO BJJ
EARS OPENED, EYES OPENED, STREET SMART
AND KEEP YOUR SHIT WIRED TIGHT.


My humble opinion.

P.S. (the story is really happened to a friend of mine in Palermo in 1994).

[Ryu (non-working password]

very good post, Underdog.

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

What happened to your friend after? Where did he stab the guy?

[Underdog]

He did stab the guy on the tight. It was more or less a warning. The other guys went to the rescue of the stabbed, and my friend exited the scene quickly.

The guy wanted revenge, but my friend was connected to some REAL bad guys that solved the situation (they talked to the other guy).

[Bau13]

Underdog = The Godfather

[Underdog]

Hey, it was a friend; I wasn't involved!