Quick takedowns?

[HIM]

I'm not sure if this belongs in this forum or not, so if it doesn't then im sorry.
Anyway.. lately at school i've been having this problem with this one kid, he's only a little bigger than me. Everytime he see's me he pushes me or does something, i'm small but im not weak. I can fight I just don't want to get suspended or anything. I'm really strong for my size but he's one of those people that just want to start fights all the time and i'm not. I just want to be able to take him down right away. I only know one way to do it, and that's to put one leg behind his and push him.

Can anyone help me out?

[MrPoopy]

If you don't do something about he'll just keep messing with you. I wouldn't worry too much about doing moves that someone tries to describe to you on a forum. If he gets you mad, then give him what he wants. Just clock him.

If you're really worried about it, take up martial arts or wrestling if your school offers it.

[Yang]

I agree with mr poopy, you don't need to be takeing this kind of advice from a board , I was gonna recommend something untill I read the reason u want the move. The best warrior(fighter) is the one who avoids the battle.

[Half-Asleep]

don't fight with him kos it will only aggrevate the situation if u have no choice then i'd prolly strike him rather than do a take down like in the diafram or sumthin' just knock the air out of him and leave. but u dont' want to get into a fight with him incase his mates step in or maybe he can fight or if he can't maybe he will get lucky too many unknowns...

[Jared]

Options available to you without resorting to fighting:

1: Report the incidents to an authority figure. Whether that is your parents, or guardians, teachers, or principal. They may be able to do something to resolve the situation without you going to fisticuffs.

2: If you do not feel like approaching an authority figure to solve the situation or you have already and it didn't resolve the situation, then you could use avoidance techniques. If you see the other person walking in your direction, go the other way. Do not take pathways this person goes if possible.

3: If it is impossible to avoid bumping into this person at some point, you could always just "take" the pushing - if that all it is right now. Pushing doesn't really 'hurt' you save for your adolescent pride. What "other things" has he done besides pushing?

Options avaliable if you choose to fight:

1: Know your situation. If you fight, will anyone stop it, or will people intervene and say, hold you down while he kicks the sh- - out of you? Preferably you would want a situation in your favor, not his.

2: Know your opponent. Does the person have fighting experience that you know of, or does is he just a poser who will back down if you actually stand up for yourself? If the answer is, "No, he doesn't have fighting experience." - then I would consider fighting him. I don't know what "moves" to suggest, seeing as how I don't know enough information to calculate the best action for you to take. In a fight a plan really doesn't work. You could go in thinking, "Ok, I'll do this, then this, and this, and do this and this to counter his [insert action]." - but if he blocks any of your moves or does something unexpected, well then... your plan falls apart and you could panic, thus leaving you open to lose.

3: If he does have fighting experience, I would consider getting some yourself, whether via boxing, wrestling, judo, etc. Then you would stand some chance to beat him down.


Depending on how the person is psychologically, you fighting, and actually beating him down could cause him to 'have respect' for you, or possibly 'fear' you now, since you can kick his arse. Either will result in him leaving you alone. However, if you fight and lose, that will only increase the torment. Since he knows he can beat you down without recourse.

The reasoning I can think of that he is only pushing you, and doing common bullying tactics instead of escalating it into an actual fight is because he is baiting you. He most likely perceives that he is stronger than you, and thus can beat you up, increasing his pitiful confidence level in himself. (Generally those that pick on weaker people are weak-minded themselves. It won't take much to back him down if you can beat him down.)

Another option is increasing your own persona of strength. If he thinks he can't take you, he could back down then without fighting. How do you react when he pushes you? Do you back down, and act fearful?

If you "act tough" ie: not back down when he pushes you... that may result in him backing down himself. That really is a "last resort" situation because if your bluff doesn't work, you really can't back down. You'd have to fight him. If you walked away, he would know it was just a bluff, thus the tormenting will continue.

I hope this helps. From the way your describing the person, he seems like a poser. Posers are easy to handle if you can properly show them their place. I could be wrong though. He could have other motives for confronting you beyond thinking he is strong, and you are weak. Only you would know know that though. What are his motivations to continue the aggravation?

[nogard1980]

If you are getting pushed constanly then stop taking on the push. something I did not learn from martial arts was if someone pushes me I just turn to the side so as to let him push through open door and push him on the side as he comes through. The outcome of this could vary ( he could get emabarressed and walk away, laugh and say about time you stopped letting in (thus having repect for your) or he could be ready to fight and once he gets hiself together start charging) so make sure you are ready for what is going to come next. If you are positive the dude is going to start charging, once you push him from the side, start charging yourself and don't give him a chance to breath, just keep going. But that as mentioned before depends on your surrounding. I would only do this if It was neccassary. I just hate seeing people get harrassed on a daily basis. I use to see it and have it done to me as well. I did learn that in the end you are the deciding factor on when it will stop.

[Great Sage]

If you ask me, I'd just beat the bastard... No sense in taking such abuse.

I've had two bullies in my lifetime... The first was Danny, who was notorious for beating up smaller kids. Eventually, the guy grew out of it.

During my first year in high school, there was this punkish kid named Rich. The guy's locker was right next to mine so I always had to put up with his verbage (none of it was towards me), not to mention locker slamming.

Well, one day during lunch Rich was having too much fun. He threw a french fry and it nearly hit me, so I decided it was finally time to regulate. I went right up to him and said something in the lines of, "Look Rich, I've put up with your crap long enough... Either straighten up, or I'm gonna have to really embarras you in front of your friends." He just had a smirk, but didn't say anything.

Well, the guy didn't really change, but he seemed wary of doing stupid things around me after that. He even talked to me like a normal person during our occasional meetings at our lockers.

[smith&wesson]

Can't give you an advice in this situation cos I do not know the person in question and why he does what he does. Mostly it is some kind of jealousy.
(Is he acting in a group, are you in a group?). I would first try to speak with him like Great Sage said. It will help (the most yourself) cos you have done something (just beeing calm makes you mad). If it doesn't help I would give him a slap in his face (womanlike). Middlehave. This will bring tears in his eyes and you have shown (if the thing comes to the director that you are not an ordinairy fighter; it was self defense). If it comes to a fight then take the piss out him, I guess he is afraid of this and will not take this choice.
He is a coward and he will have more respect when you don't take the situation as it is now.

Just some thoughts.

[MrPoopy]

Don't try to disect this guy. It won't help. If you find out hes got no fighting experience, he'll just end up suprising you. Nobody wants to lose a fight.

I wouldn't take much crap from him. Most of these loud mouthed bastards just need someone to knock them down a few notches before they can learn to act right.

[Szczepankiewicz]

Depending on how the person is psychologically, you fighting, and actually beating him down could cause him to 'have respect' for you, or possibly 'fear' you now, since you can kick his arse.

Yeah, this is what happened with Brian and myself. I kicked his arse one time when he cut in front of me at the hot dog stand during lunch. Now we're good friends 'cause he has a deep seated fear of my martial prowess.

[Tom Yum]

Nuthin gets in the way of Spanky and his dogs, especially "Fat Man on a ROll!"

[MasterChief]

You should probably learn how to fight before you try anything. You don't want your first attempt at any takedown technique to be against this bigger jerk. Go to your wrestling team or a martial arts studio or a boxing gym.

Then, hopefully, you'll learn that you don't need to fight this guy anyways. A good martial arts instructor or coach should teach you that you only fight as a last resort. This should be a pretty high standard before you throw down; getting talked to or almost getting hit by a french fry doesn't cut it. Defend yourself or someone who needs your help only if you are under attack or really threatened. Until that's the only option, follow the rules and use the authorities (like school teachers or pricipals or, in other cases, police).