Training in NYC

[Labalie]

I have just moved to Staten Island, NY and am looking for someplace near by to re-start my training (I have been away from the game for about 2 years).
Does anyone know of or train in a academy/school/garage near Staten Island?
I refuse to go to a "franchise" or re-lear some "sissy" style (and I say that with all do respect).
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[IPON]

Lablie - what style did you study and do you still want to train in that style. Also what styles are you interested in....are you will to come to the city or brooklyn or just in Staten Island

[Labalie]

I trained Thai boxing / JuJitsu for a little over a year in a very non-acedemy setting. I was trained by one individual who only taught 3 of us. I was looking to stay on the same style track either BJJ or someplace that teaches a mixed martial arts style. I have not done much research on other styles, bu tam open to a similar transition style from what i trained. And by sissy style i mean these dime a dozen karate / kung-fu "dojos".

I am willing to go to the city or brooklyn no problem. I am looking to train maybe 1 -2 days a week to start then maybe more, but definitley 1 -2 a week.

[IPON]

Well this is a city with a heck of a lot of authentis masters (and yes the MC Dojos). I have not studied BJJ but plan to so here is a few I can give more later

for BJJ: Machado or Gracie. With Gracie school your are getting Renzo (at least I think he is still the primary teacher I have to check his new location). Machado is not as expensive and it is still good Marcos santos is the instructor

http://www.renzogracie.com/

http://www.nycmachadojj.com/

http://www.veearnisjitsu.com/

Jujutsu I would go with Vee arnis jujitsu they combine arnis and Muay thai (actually Vee arnis, Machado and church Street boxing are all in teh same building)

http://www.veearnisjitsu.com/

[ryanhall]

If you are into MMA competition, you might want to check out BIG Sean Madigan's Combative Solutions.

https://www.combativesolutions.com

They're located in Staten Island.

[Szczepankiewicz]

Hmmm. I've seen that somewhere else...

[CrushingFist]

What's the difference between Gracie Jiujitsu and Brazilian Jiujitsu?

They only teach ground fighting?

[CKD]

I am pretty sure there is no difference. The Gracie Jiu-jitsu is just a copyrighted term unlike Brazilian Jiu-jitsu.

[CrushingFist]

I am pretty sure there is no difference. The Gracie Jiu-jitsu is just a copyrighted term unlike Brazilian Jiu-jitsu.

How come I heard Gracie JJ is father of BJJ ? so there must be a difference. And if the Gracie guy Helio was fighting so much people before it couldn't be just groundfighting

[IPON]

The Gracie family started their version of JJ in Brasil so all of teh JJ in Brasil has lineage to the Gracie's. The machados are cousins to the Gracies. The style concentrates on groundfighting but does have some standup techniques.

[CrushingFist]

The Gracie family started their version of JJ in Brasil so all of teh JJ in Brasil has lineage to the Gracie's. The machados are cousins to the Gracies. The style concentrates on groundfighting but does have some standup techniques.

Any schools in NYC that teach a combo of styles like Muay Thai & BJJ then?
Or is there any kickboxing schools that teach within their kickboxing style muay thai and bjj into the kickboxing

[wardancer]

The Gracie family started their version of JJ in Brasil so all of teh JJ in Brasil has lineage to the Gracie's. The machados are cousins to the Gracies. The style concentrates on groundfighting but does have some standup techniques.

Gracie JJ is the American trademark for the Gracie Jiu Jitsu: Gracie Jiu Jitsu is BJJ as the founding Family. Many brothers where part of the the BJJ development (lawsuits) and their students have their own 'version'
They do stand-up fight as well as ground fighting.
And their no rules fight is vale tudo translating in the the gracie challenge which they learned from their years and became so good at MMA.
The Gracie do not teach vale tudo as their art but BJJ.
Vale tudo was their challenge for 'free for all' fight with other MA to sort out their differences.
Do not MMA with vale tudo /Gracie challenge

[wardancer]

Do not THINK MMA is vale tudo/Gracie Challenge.

[CKD]

Gracie Jiu-jitsu is the same as bjj. Rorion just copyrighted the term to get money. BJJ training is like a triangle, there is sport bjj(gi and no gi), vale tudo bjj(this is where striking techniques are taught),and self dfense bjj(defense against weapons and street attacks such as bearhugs). A good school will have an equal emphasis on all of these. Try to find a school that teaches the full traingle, Renzo will probaly teach it fully. They have a class dedicated to the vale tudo portion of bjj on Sundays. Depending how much you focus on the stand up moves in bjj will determine how good you will be. Example is Rickson, he has never studied another martial art system but can punch and kick well and is skilled at takedowns. Nick Diaz is a full time bjj person who never cross trains and he knocked out a Lion Dens fighter.

[IPON]

Example is Rickson, he has never studied another martial art system but can punch and kick well and is skilled at takedowns. Nick Diaz is a full time bjj person who never cross trains and he knocked out a Lion Dens fighter.

CKD: Rickson was a freestyle wresling champion in Brasil and I do believe he sudied boxing (but don't quote me).

Wardancer: just curious why emphasis on vale tudo, noone made any reference to it

CrushingFist: in addition to the liks above straightblast gym is at the fight club on 28th and 6th www.straightblastgym.com


There are a few MT schools in the city. Phil Nurse was at the world gym on west 3rd and mercer but I think this is his new location:

Khai Muay Lugsitnarong
Kru Phil Nurse
Wat
31 Howard Street, 3rd Floor, New York, NY10013

http://www.thaiboxing-nyc.com

E-mail: thaiboxing@TheWat.com


Ultimate Gym Muay Thai N.Y.C
1 East 28th street 2nd floor New York, N.Y 10016 .

http://www.muaythainyc.com

E-mail:muaythainyc@aol.com Trainer: Adjarn Prasit
Tel. (212) 725-4666
Fax.(212) 725-5552