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  • #16
    Originally posted by Thai Bri
    The Gracies didn't just prove the effectiveness of grappling. They proved the effectiveness of Gracie Jiu Jitsu.

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    • #17
      Gracie himself never tried to win, he just waited till Severn lost control.
      He waited for an opening so he could submit him. Do counter punchers lack "fighting spirt"? If they wait for an opening and then knock their opponets the FO?

      Not a optimal figthing spirit.
      IMHO the type of "fighting spirt" that results in victory is the "optimal fighting spirt"

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      • #18
        In a time limited fight the more active fighter wins (this was unlimited). I totally respect Gracies' performance in this fight (Severn is in some points really the "beast"). I just wanted to say that waiting for a submission is not activity

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