Is there any reason to learn American kickboxing over Muay Thai kickboxing?

[Marksmarkou]

If the Kickboxing will train clinch, elbow and knees then it could be worth it. If not stick with Mauy Thai.

[Scott Bolinger]

Another kickboxing vs Muay Thai fight would be

Chuck Laddell (kickboxer) vs Anderlie Silvia (Muay Thai)


To me, it doesn't realy matter, it's just being professional and doing the best you can to develop you or your athlets to the best of there abilities. And that may mean, changing your original style of training.

I don't know what style of kickBoxing Chuck does, but in this fight both fighters did do leg kicks. But neather one did any elbows or knees. But I know both do throw elbows and knee strikes.

[Scott Bolinger]

there were diffenat flaws i both arts. The kickboxer had a good spinning back kick, but didn't do much from leading leg kicks, he also didn't do hardly any shin blocks, but was able to get away from the leg kicks in the first and second round. Both needed a great deal of hand work. The Muay Thai guy was more acceptable to fancy kicks, but with a regular kickboxer, he would of gotten tied up doing. Alot of times he was open coming in and the kickboxer should of been jamming the hip to keep his distance. the Muay Thai guy had a good stratigy of working the legs.

One thing that is of greate ignorance is making a statment, saying that american kickboxing is this and american kickboxing is that. They used to say ignorant things like that about karate or Tae Kwon Do. It's the ignorance of thinking that is a specific stile and it's not. There are many styles of Karate, many styles of Tae Kwon Do and many stiles of kickboxing.

for kickboxing competition theres

1) full contact kickboxing ( all kicks are above the waist, now elbows, no knees)
2) International rules ( allows kicks to the leg)
3) Muay Thai

Unless you get into the point fighting and continuous point fighting.

If your training for competition, then you train to do the best for that competition. The sport I primarily focused on is continuous point sparring, international rules and boxing.

[warriors13]

No the school is owned by a TKD instructor who was learning MT under John Harris who was the MT instructor of the school. I don't remember the TKD instructor's name. You have to go and check and see if John Harris still teaches there. I don't think he does anymore. The owner was telling me that he was going to fire John Harris because he wasn't showing up for the classes. This was about six months ago.

I believe his name is Steve. I just hope John gets his act together. He's been fired before.

[bigboywasim]

I thought that was his school. Does he still teach?

No the school is owned by a TKD instructor who was learning MT under John Harris who was the MT instructor of the school. I don't remember the TKD instructor's name. You have to go and check and see if John Harris still teaches there. I don't think he does anymore. The owner was telling me that he was going to fire John Harris because he wasn't showing up for the classes. This was about six months ago.

[warriors13]

The last time I checked John Harris was about to get fired because he wasn't showing up for the classes.

I thought that was his school. Does he still teach?

[bigboywasim]

What happened to John Harris's place.

The last time I checked John Harris was about to get fired because he wasn't showing up for the classes.

[warriors13]

I am from Sacramento also. There is a great MT place on Northgate. The instructor is a really good one. You should take Muay Thai there.

What happened to John Harris's place.

[gabbah]

Ah, interesting. Anyone have a link for that second fight?
Do you know if rick changed his stance or started blocking the lowkicks thai style?

[Blue Wave Gym]

yea but he came back and beat chisongrit in the next fight then beat rob kaman

so ther's no point ot be made then went on to be a great thai boxer lol
For the record I'd probably train thai instead but the place I went to wasn't so that's why. the comment about the elbows doesn't mean anything to me one of tkd instructors foughti n mt and got an eye injury so bad he had to had eyesurgery this was from an elbow. America rulers kickboxers and Boxers get horriable cuts all the time and no legal elbows there it's all irrelvevant cause I'd fight mma anyway lol. Mad props and much love to all fighters

[gabbah]

the classic match up of American rules fighter versus Muay Thai

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ckboxing&hl=en

hahaha... daaaaamn those legkicks gotta hurt!

[bigboywasim]

I am from Sacramento also. There is a great MT place on Northgate. The instructor is a really good one. You should take Muay Thai there.

[GonzoStyles]

the classic match up of American rules fighter versus Muay Thai

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4927177132680635888&q=kickboxing&hl=en

[WildWest.]

Do the style you like the most be it either American Kickboxing, MT or origami. It's what you get out of it that's the most important thing.

[Tom Yum]

Here's my 0.02 baht on the subject...

Amercan rules kickboxers this day and age are pretty much western boxers who know how to throw solid karate and TKD kicks. It wasn't always this way; it used to be American Kickboxing-full contact karate where fighters depended more on their kicks because they used back fists and ridgehands when they got into punching range, which scored and stunned but less frequently KO'd. They turned over to boxing style hands in the 80's, but never really trained close with boxing coaches until the late 80's/early 90's?

Watch some of the old tapes of fighters like Jean Yves-Theriault and Rick Roufus. They transformed as fighters during the late 80's and early 90's, becoming harder punchers.

When pit against muaythai fighters, they loose more often than win because of two trademark thai moves that they do not train in: leg kicks and clinch knees.

Still - American rules kickboxers are some bad ass mofos, who can punch rather well and throw high hard kicks!